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In answer to somebody's rant re Romans 13

pinoybaptist

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1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God : the powers that be are ordained of God.

Obama is the elected president, according to law. Did God ordain this ? maybe. maybe not. I say maybe not because all God had to do for an evil man with an evil heart of unbelief to reign over His own in this time world, is.....nothing. Well, there he is, so be it.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Going underground, or taking to the hills, bearing arms to fight an armed conflict with this president, his minions, and his lapdogs in the Armed Forces is one thing. absolutely not what the word of God commands.
But there is NOT ONE WORD in the Bible that says Christians are to be "yes-men" and kiss the behind of an evil man such as Obama. There is NOTHING in the Bible that says Christians are not to speak out in criticism, frustration, or even contempt of a ruler whose directions and policies are clearly anti-Christ, anti-Bible, and aligned with those of the enemies of God's peole, and I don't just mean Israel,

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

As long as you, the Christian, DO NOT BREAK THE LAWS OF THIS LAND in your opposition to this current tenant at the White House, then you are in "good works", and doing that which is good. There is NO LAW that prohibits opposition to Obama's policies and socialistic directions, there is NO LAW that prohibits disrespectful speech against the president of this country, or any of its rulers in all levels, there is NO LAW that prohibits organized, peaceful assembly to address grievances........YET.
There ARE LAWS against sedition, libel, and rebellion.
Those laws, all Christians, are compelled by Scripture not to break.

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid ; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

self-explanatory.

5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject , not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

another activity in which the Christian SHOULD NOT be involved in besides taking up arms is NON-PAYMENT OF TAXES. This is without controversy a scriptural instruction.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

NOTE: honor TO WHOM honor. It is my personal opinion, as a believer, and a citizen of this country, that Obama does not deserve my respect and honor as president. Whether he does as a person, is another matter, though I might say, probably not.
 

Don

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Obama is the elected president, according to law. Did God ordain this ? maybe. maybe not. I say maybe not because all God had to do for an evil man with an evil heart of unbelief to reign over His own in this time world, is.....nothing. Well, there he is, so be it.
I agree with you; but I also offer a different example of Saul. The people wanted a king; God gave them Saul. Do we think God didn't know that Saul would allow the power and authority to corrupt him? I think God knew all along; and intended Saul to be a lesson for/to the people.
 

pinoybaptist

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I agree with you; but I also offer a different example of Saul. The people wanted a king; God gave them Saul. Do we think God didn't know that Saul would allow the power and authority to corrupt him? I think God knew all along; and intended Saul to be a lesson for/to the people.
no argument here, Don.
 
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