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In AWE of Thy Word

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Ed Edwards, Jun 5, 2004.

  1. Ed Edwards

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    I ordered my AWE direct from Chick, on-linte.
    I knew they would send me thier newest tract.
    In fact, they sent 2 new tracts and one
    established tract.

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  2. Ed Edwards

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    Interesting, somebody when through
    the HCSB = Holman Christian Standard Bible
    (Holman, 2004) checking Gail's lists
    of MV omissions. Note that Gail's book
    is copyright in 2003, so the form of the
    HCSB used was not the final version.

    The HCSB is one of the first translations
    done totaly on-line. The working results
    were available to many people.
    The final results are now available to all.

    Where the HCSB has a "flaw" like the
    missing "pray" in Mark 13:33, it is
    noted (page 728) with: "See errors in HCSB, ... "
    (BTW, the HCSB notes in a footnote that some
    manuscripts have "pray")
    Where the HCSB has no flaw like the
    missing verse: John 5:4, the HCSB
    is missing (page 730).
    I.E. there is no attempt made to
    RATE the so called Modern Versions
    telling which one is closeset to
    the standard.
    Of course the standard KJV1769 is
    called the KJV1611 -- what kind of standard
    is an outright LIE?

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  3. Ed Edwards

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    page 737 Gail has a deception.
    She shows the Anglo Sacon Bible prior to 700AD
    is much like the Wycliffe, Tyndale, Geneva,
    Bishops and KJV using WORLD (or earlier
    like terms) but the modern versions
    use "age". Not mentioned is
    that the Greek term AION is being
    translated "world" here. Most places
    "world" comes from "kosmos" meaning
    "world" or "universe" i.e. the physical
    relm. Other places, the Greek "aion" is
    translated "age" or a long period of time
    with a common denominator.

    The verses involved are Mark 10:30, Matthew 28:20
    (in the great comission) and Luke 1:70.

    By witholding this aion, kosmas information,
    Gail is deceptive here (or she could
    be deceived?).

    BTW, "age" is a much better term in
    Matthew 28:20 because it shows the
    pretribulation rapture, which i support.
    For Jesus is with us even unto the end
    of the age, for at the pretrib rapture,
    we are then with Jesus.

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  4. psr.2

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    Hey brothers and or sisters in Christ. Have you read this lately?
    3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,
    2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.
    3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
    4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
    5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
    6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
    7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
    8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.
    9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
    10 A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject;

    If Ruckman or Riplinger are guilty let them be guilty before the Lord.
    I tell all of you here that what you have done here is completely unscriptual.
    God exhorts us to speak evil of no man.

    Dr. Bob I recall a thread quite a while back where someone suggested that MV users were being influenced by an unclean spirit and you made haste to delete the post and call that person down. I don't see the persons name here any more but if they are monitoring I'm sure they see what I see and that is a double standard.

    Ed you seem to thrive on ridiculing those who you do not agree with mercilessly. I'm certain if I or anyone here on this board said about you what you have said about those not on this board you would report the post. I believe it's time for some soul searching brothers.

    Although these folks do not teach what you do they are children of God. Your heavenly Father is surely displeased with this type of thing amongst his children.
     
  5. Ed Edwards

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    Read the rules someday:

    3. Show grace to the other posters. When someone disagrees with you, discuss it; but be slow to offend, and eager to get into the Word and find the answers. Remember, when discussing passionate issues, it is easy to go too far and offend. Further, if we are "earnestly contending for the faith" it would be unrealistic not to expect at times to be misunderstood or even ridiculed. But please note that your words can sometimes be harsh if used in the wrong way. The anger of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

    Your are the blessed psr.2 = peter s. ruckman #2,
    you are NOT Peter S. Ruckman #1.
    So i can speak ill of ptr.1, if i wish.
    But always i am required to say true stuff.
    And shall continue my review of Gail A.
    Riplinger's IN AWE OF THY WORD.

    BTW, did i mention that most of the book
    looks like rehashed files whose roots
    were in NEW AGE VERSIONS?
    Apparently the new version she likes to
    run down the most is the new
    HCSB = Holman Christian Standard Bible,
    which happens to be the Bible i'm using now.
    I'm sure she gets good jobs dising the
    SBC = Southern Baptist Convention, for
    supporting the HCSB.

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  6. psr.2

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    Quote from Ed.
    Your are the blessed psr.2 = peter s. ruckman #2,

    You are wrong. It has nothing to do with peter s. ruckman. [personal attack snipped]

    rule; "but be slow to offend, "

    I gave you scripture and told you that you are an offence. You disregard both.

    quote from Ed;
    Apparently the new version she likes to
    run down the most is the new
    HCSB = Holman Christian Standard Bible,
    which happens to be the Bible i'm using now.

    SO. Do her actions make it necessary for you to rant and rave for 1000's of posts?

    By you buying her book you help her print more.
    The scripture is very plain when dealing with differences between brothers and sisters in Christ.

    Have you taken the scriptual approach?
    Probably not. It's easier to come here and types 1000's of posts about people that are not here to debate with you.

    Now wouldn't that be interesting? Suppose someone on this board would debate with you on this board using the language and tactics you use on folks not on this board.

    Quote from Ed.
    Read the rules someday:

    I've read plenty. Your answer is a dead give away. I gave scripture but you cling to a loop hole in the boards rules.

    You have reputation here Ed. Some of those who know you say "oh that's just Ed" Well that does not hold any weight when it is contrary to scripture.

    [ June 22, 2004, 02:32 PM: Message edited by: Christ4Kildare ]
     
  7. psr.2

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    Ed you no doubt read this while you were on the rule page.

    "Unbelievers visit this site as well and when they see anger toward others in the Body of Christ they immediately pass a bad judgment on us as a whole. Please be sensitive to this issue. Golden Rule - 'Post unto others as you would have them post unto you'"
     
  8. ScottEmerson

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    I'm very thankful that Ed posts how he does. He speaks truth. There were plenty of people who didn't like the things that Christ said either. Continue being Christ-like, Ed!
     
  9. amixedupmom

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    Nicely put.

    We can agree to disagree without resorting to name calling [​IMG]
     
  10. psr.2

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    [offensive personal reference deleted]

    [ June 22, 2004, 02:34 PM: Message edited by: Christ4Kildare ]
     
  11. Orvie

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    Are you sure you are not Precepts "reincarnated"? He promoted the Nehushtan (2 Kings 18:4) Pickled Version Sect.
     
  12. psr.2

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    That post added a lot to this thread.
     
  13. robycop3

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    So, psr2, you believe we should simply ignore a known false doctrine and exalt those who push it?

    JESUS HIMSELF wasn't very polite to certain Pharisees. While, of course, we don't have HIS authority nor His ability to know all hearts, we DO have His example. Of the millions of words Jesus spoke in His earthly life, only a few were chosen by Him to "not pass away", and His scathing rebuke of the Pharisees were some of them.

    Now, are you next gonna condemn His use of physical force to throw the flea market out of the Temple?
     
  14. psr.2

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    Hello Robycop. Well to address your post will take just a second so stay with me.

    I see the question mark at the end of this sentence but it doesn't read like a question. It reads like a statement but I will answer anyway.

    No I do not believe you should ignore a known false doctrine.
    Rom. 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
    I'm not sure where the exalt thing came from but I think the verse speaks for itself.

    The main difference between what happened with the Lord rebuking the pharisees and what happens on the threads here is that the Lord did it to their face. The rebuking and correcting was not done behind their back.
    Another thing..He rebuked them and got on with his work. He did not stay and rehash it with everyone that would talk about it.
    He didn't buy their books and then pick apart all of the faults. He was much to busy for that.
    Which leads to another problem. 19 pages of version debate on one thread and multiple threads most of which contain little content and much slander.
    Yes Jesus let the pharisees have it good and they had it coming. Do you know what a major problem of the pharisees was Roby? They were guilty of looking down thier noses at and bad mouthing others who were trying to have a relationship with the Lord. They spent their time thinking and talking amongst their own crowd about how noone else was as smart or righteous as they.
    Yes Roby the Lord let them hace it good.

    No I am not going to condemn the Lord for throwing the "flea market" out of the temple. But thanks for asking.
     
  15. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you Brother Scott Emerson.

    On subject:
    I notice Gail never discusses the translator notes
    of the KJV1611 edition.
    But she condemns the nKJV = new King James
    Version -- she condemns the nKJV's
    translator notes.

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  16. Craigbythesea

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    prs.2,

    THE MAJOR PROBLEM with the Pharisees was that they denied the deity of Christ and made a mockery of Him and His teachings. The KJO gang makes a mockery of Jesus, His Father, and the Holy Spirit by putting ridiculously false statements into their mouths, very strongly suggesting that they are not only liars, but stupid liars. Some of us may post frequently about the errors of KJOism, but it seems as though YOU almost always post negative things about those who are standing for the truth. That is something that Jesus NEVER did!

    And no, you KJOists, you are NOT standing for the truth, but a malicious lie!

    1Tim 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
    1Tim 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

    Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
     
  17. Ransom

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    Ed Edwards said:

    I notice Gail never discusses the translator notes of the KJV1611 edition.

    Oh, but she does. On the first page of the catalogue on her Web site, she says:

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  18. Ed Edwards

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    [​IMG] </font>[/QUOTE]Thank you blessed brother Ransom for pointing this out to me. Thank you furthermore
    for actually posting on the subject as noted
    in the title of the Topic.

    I correct my statement to read:

    I notice Gail never positively discusses the translator notes of the KJV1611 edition.
     
  19. psr.2

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    Craig I think the reason that so many have to resort to the name calling and unkind phrases in their posts is due to a lack of ability to express themselves in a learned manner.
    It may be the frustration of not truly knowing their full content of their conviction. This is what leads to constantly quoting other authors to prove or disprove a bible doctrine rather than an ability to explain their position from scripture alone.
    Then when they feel they are losing ground in their debate the name calling starts. Hence we have KJO's,stupid,liars, etc..

    quote;
    THE MAJOR PROBLEM with the Pharisees was that they denied the deity of Christ and made a mockery of Him and His teachings. The KJO gang makes a mockery of Jesus, His Father, and the Holy Spirit by putting ridiculously false statements into their mouths, very strongly suggesting that they are not only liars, but stupid liars. Some of us may post frequently about the errors of KJOism, but it seems as though YOU almost always post negative things about those who are standing for the truth. That is something that Jesus NEVER did!

    And no, you KJOists, you are NOT standing for the truth, but a malicious lie!

    Are you calling me a KJO ist?
    If so based on what evidence.

    quote;
    but it seems as though YOU almost always post negative things about those who are standing for the truth. That is something that Jesus NEVER did!

    I guess if asking someone to consider what the scripture has to say about their testimony before they post is negative then I am negative.

    It was not just the pharisees who denied the deity of Christ. That is what got him crucified. Just a few more folks involved in that than the pharisees.

    I heard a saying once and it seems to apply here.

    If you throw a hammer into a kennel full of dogs the one that yelps is the one that got hit the hardest.
    If the Holy Spirit is dealing with you through my previous post then deal with it.
     
  20. robycop3

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    Psr2:The main difference between what happened with the Lord rebuking the pharisees and what happens on the threads here is that the Lord did it to their face. The rebuking and correcting was not done behind their back.

    First, we seldom see the purveyors of bunk in person; they may be in San Francisco while we're in the East, but they're no farther away communication-wise than a monitor screen. In a way, WE'RE doing it to their faces.

    Another thing.He rebuked them and got on with his work. He did not stay and rehash it with everyone that would talk about it.

    Didn't He? Read Matthew 5:20, Matthew 16:6,11 for starters.


    He didn't buy their books and then pick apart all of the faults. He was much to busy for that.

    That's because books weren't a prime means of communication then as they are now. Jesus didn't come to change the times; He "went with the flow" in many respects.


    Which leads to another problem. 19 pages of version debate on one thread and multiple threads most of which contain little content and much slander.

    It's called "debate", for which purpose these forums were established. You have the choice to participate or not; you're not FORCED to be here.


    Yes Jesus let the pharisees have it good and they had it coming. Do you know what a major problem of the pharisees was Roby? They were guilty of looking down thier noses at and bad mouthing others who were trying to have a relationship with the Lord.

    In the same manner in which today's KJVOs act toward those who don't believe their myth.


    They spent their time thinking and talking amongst their own crowd about how noone else was as smart or righteous as they.

    Again, just as today's KJVOs do.


    Yes Roby the Lord let them hace it good.

    And by doing so, He provided us an example of how we should deal with today's purveyors of bunk.
     
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