In Eternity................

[HisWitness]

To have perfect knowledge would put us on par with God. We will be like Christ in the way He is physically and sin free. We will learn throughout eternity, in a mind able to use both sides of our brains and free of the curse. Im sure the debate of election will come to a quick halt, though. The eyes of the calvinists will be opened

the eyes of ALL of US will be opened and the error WE ALL have within US will vanish :love2::love2::love2:

 

[Steadfast Fred]

So you are telling us all that you've never cried one time since you were born? Not even as a baby? Or have never read an obituary since you've been alive?

"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." Rev 21:4

Come on, Dr Ach... You know all those papers were just funnin' when they printed those obituaries. What I can't figure out is why in the world would the gravediggers have buried all those live people???

 

[Fred's Wife]

well as holding to the preterist view I believe the Former things are already passed away and we are in the new heaven and earth--so ill have to disagree

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2 Peter 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

I haven't heard that "great noise" yet, have you? If we are living in the New Heaven and New Earth, how come we still see the moon, stars and planets through telescopes? What part of the universe today has melted with fervent heat?

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

In Romans 3:10-18 says that there is "none righteous". Does Romans 3:10-18 contradict 2 Peter 3:10-13?

There is evil/sin all around us. How can this be possible if we live in the New Heaven and New Earth?

 

[HisWitness]

So you are telling us all that you've never cried one time since you were born? Not even as a baby? Or have never read an obituary since you've been alive?

"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." Rev 21:4

the tears are related to the DEATH--if theres NO more DEATH then the tears will be NO more also

DEATH has been destroyed and defeated by Yahshua.

Now I know what your next post will be but lets NOT highjack this thread over it please--Make a Thread on DEATH if you will and will talk there.

 

[DrJamesAch]

the tears are related to the DEATH--if theres NO more DEATH then the tears will be NO more also

DEATH has been destroyed and defeated by Yahshua.

Now I know what your next post will be but lets NOT highjack this thread over it please--Make a Thread on DEATH if you will and will talk there.

Did you notice the CORRELATIVE CONJUNCTIONS in Revelation 21:4? like "NEITHER"? That shows that death (masculine noun) is separate from crying (feminine noun), there is no relation to tears being dependent they are separate nouns. That is grammatical suicide to impose such a private interpretation on the text, not to mention you attempted to preempt the subject of death because you know the next logical argument would be that since you tied tears to death, and there is still obvious death, you'd have to explain that anomaly as well.

And are still spelling what you think God's name is wrong.

 

[Tom Butler]

My opinion is that, once we get our glorified bodies we will be just like Christ (I John 3:2) and we will have perfect knowledge. We will have no more questions.

I'm glad to hear that. I have a lot of questions and I figured it might take a long time to get all the answers, particularly if saturneptune is in line ahead of me.

However. in case there's a line to the Throne, I have a plan. I'll grab C. H. Spurgeon, or maybe Martin Luther and ask them, "okay, what did God say about so-and-so?" That way, I won't get stuck in the long line behind SN.

But, I really don't need to get in a hurry. I'll have a really long time to get the answers.

 

[RIPP0NWV]

Good thread.

 

[salzer mtn]

Will we immediately know all the answers to the questions of free will and election, will we have to ask, or will we care? More important, will it be important to the Lord that we understand at the point of glorification?

When God wipes away the free willers tears, could it be because they finally realized they were wrong ?:tear:

 

[webdog]

When God wipes away the free willers tears, could it be because they finally realized they were wrong ?:tear:

No, it will be from us laughing so hard as God explains to you how ridiculous determinism was.

 

[InTheLight]

Originally Posted by HisWitness
are you saying that we will have ALL wisdom--ALL knowledge-of how everything is created,works,and consists at that very moment ?

My opinion is that we will be like Christ and have perfect knowledge. I believe we will fully understand everything about God's creation, yes.

I sure hope it isn't like this. We have all eternity to deal with, why not spread the joy of discovery around a bit?

Anyway, there's no way to know but I think it would make more sense, and be less overwhelming if we gradually learned stuff.

 

[percho]

I agree. Will be perfect like our heavenly Father is perfect. All error will have been swept away and we will enjoy nothing more than the presence of our Redeemer.

Will that be the fulfillment of this?


But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 1 Cor 13:10 KJV

Also just when will that be?

 

[Inspector Javert]

Will we immediately know all the answers to the questions of free will and election?.....

What? I already DO!

 

[Herald]

Will that be the fulfillment of this?


But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 1 Cor 13:10 KJV

Also just when will that be?

We will be perfect in the eternal state. We will no longer battle with sin and will enjoy perfect fellowship with God.