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Insurrection act of 1807

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Scott Downey

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You do know if this is not stopped immediately, these groups of insurrectionists will be emboldened all over various inner cities to do the same things. It will just make it a lot worse if we do nothing.
 
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Derf B

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InTheLight said:
So you're in favor of the Federal government stepping in on a local issue in Seattle, WA?
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An “autonomous zone” is declaring itself not under any authority, city, state, or country. But that area is a part of all 3, city, state, and country. The mayor, the governor, and the president all have a responsibility to protect the citizens of that area from usurpers of authority.
 
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Use of Time

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Derf B said:
An “autonomous zone” is declaring itself not under any authority, city, state, or country. But that area is a part of all 3, city, state, and country. The mayor, the governor, and the president all have a responsibility to protect the citizens of that area from usurpers of authority.
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Then why did Trump pardon the usurpers in Oregon when they occupied a Federal Wildlife refuge while armed?
 
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Adonia

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Use of Time said:
Then why did Trump pardon the usurpers in Oregon when they occupied a Federal Wildlife refuge while armed?
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First of all, you need to get the story correct.. The only people President Trump pardoned were two ranchers named Dwight Hammond and his son Steven who had been arrested for setting fires on Federal lands near their private ranch. It was the arrest and sentencing of those two men that INSPIRED the takeover of the wildlife refuge by Amon Bundy and others. Mr. Hammond and his son WERE NOT involved in the armed takeover of the wildlife refuge building.

Now those people WHO WERE involved in the takeover of the building were arrested and tried, with some pleading guilty and serving time in prison, while others were acquitted of all charges. None of those people were ever pardoned or had their sentences commuted by President Trump.
 
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InTheLight said:
So you're in favor of the Federal government stepping in on a local issue in Seattle, WA?
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As far as CHAZ, the local authorities are complicit. If the state doesn't do something pretty quick, I don't see how this isn't a scenario that needs federal intervention.
 
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Adonia

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Rob_BW said:
As far as CHAZ, the local authorities are complicit. If the state doesn't do something pretty quick, I don't see how this isn't a scenario that needs federal intervention.
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Which could be a big landmine for the President. It is indeed a sad day when a Mayor is complicit and a Governor is feckless. Right now I say let them stew in their own mess, it will get worse as time goes on and the rest of America will see how weak and incompetent Democrat leadership really is. President Trump can use them as an example of that is what you get when you vote Democrat and maybe the "suburban women's vote" will go for Republican candidates because of it.
 
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Use of Time

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Adonia said:
First of all, you need to get the story correct.. The only people President Trump pardoned were two ranchers named Dwight Hammond and his son Steven who had been arrested for setting fires on Federal lands near their private ranch. It was the arrest and sentencing of those two men that INSPIRED the takeover of the wildlife refuge by Amon Bundy and others. Mr. Hammond and his son WERE NOT involved in the armed takeover of the wildlife refuge building.

Now those people WHO WERE involved in the takeover of the building were arrested and tried, with some pleading guilty and serving time in prison, while others were acquitted of all charges. None of those people were ever pardoned or had their sentences commuted by President Trump.
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He caved to the insurrectionists.
 
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Adonia

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Use of Time said:
He caved to the insurrectionists.
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No he didn't. The two ranchers were arrested, tried, convicted and served prison time and they were not involved in any insurrection, the President simply pardoned them as is his right. If anyone were the insurrectionists, it was the people at the Wildlife refuge AND NONE OF THEM WERE PARDONED, they were all arrested and given trials. Some were convicted and served prison time and others were acquitted.

If I remember correctly you have done this type of thing before, now stop lying and accept the truth on this as Jesus, the bearer of all truth would want you to.
 
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Use of Time

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Adonia said:
No he didn't. The two ranchers were arrested, tried, convicted and served prison time and they were not involved in any insurrection, the President simply pardoned them as is his right. If anyone were the insurrectionists, it was the people at the Wildlife refuge AND NONE OF THEM WERE PARDONED, they were all arrested and given trials. Some were convicted and served prison time and others were acquitted.

If I remember correctly you have done this type of thing before, now stop lying and accept the truth on this as Jesus, the bearer of all truth would want you to.
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Yes for some reason I misremembered the Hammonds actually being there. The release of the Hammonds was a stated goal of the insurrectionists. They were rewarded with that action.
 
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