But then there is no need for preaching either then. Just straight reading the Word.
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Interpretive Dance in church?
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But then there is no need for preaching either then. Just straight reading the Word.
OldRegular
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In the above Scripture the Apostle Paul states that if tongues are spoken in a worship service someone must interpret. If some person is twisting and gyrating as a part of the worship must someone interpret for usens who are unlearned and ignorant. {I realize that is redundant!}
saturneptune
New Member
Three things are required for tongues.
A person to receive the message
A person to interpret the message
A message that is edifying to the congregation
Anyone who claims to have been a part of the gift of tongues, ask them how they did each of the three elements, and it will fail every time.
I don't know. I just don't see anything wrong with this dancing in church:
https://www.facebook.com/v/10150212239142385
https://www.facebook.com/v/10150212239142385
OldRegular
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How would you characterize the requirements for "interpretative" dancing as part of worship?
OldRegular
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Me too!:thumbsup::thumbs:
USN2Pulpit
New Member
There were a lot of things done in the Bible and its times, but from your statement there are a lot of things we should cease doing.
If I'm in prison, maybe I will not sing and praise at midnight.
Since we are beyond the completed canon, maybe we should not "sing a new song" unto the Lord, or even "play skillfully" for that matter.
Since Paul's letter was strictly to the church at Ephesus, maybe we shouldn't speak to each other in psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs.
How far can this reasoning be taken? I'm not sure we should take snippets from scripture or "systematic theology" to back up our own opinions.
plain_n_simple
Active Member
I was mocking those that say miracles are past.
Ahh - gotcha.
I'm sad no one has commented on the link I posted of my son and daughter dancing in church.
Tom Butler
New Member
To dance or not to dance is an outgrowth of our culture. I grew up in a southern Southern Baptist culture, where dancing of any kind was considered wrong. We Baptists were sorta jealous of the Catholics and Methodists, who had no such prohibitions.
For example, in the 1930s in my church, during a business meeting, a member stood and accused a brother of dancing. He rose and said, "yes, I did dance, with my own wife, and I'm not sorry." The minutes of that meeting record that the church voted to withdraw fellowship.
His wife also said, yes, she had danced with her husband she was sorry, whereupon the church voted to forgive her.
Thirty years later, when I went to that church as minister of music, I met that old gentlemen and his wife. He was the oldest deacon in the church and his wife was a lovely woman. At some point he had been restored to fellowship, obviously.
Thirty years ago, we had a young pastor, 30-something, who said that dancing was basically a sexual exercise, and told our married members. "roll back the rug in your own home and have at it."
Today, dancing is a small issue or no issue at all in many Baptist churches, even the most conservative ones. We older folks are still the product of our cultures, and find little value in interpretive dance. To our younger believers, who've grown up with little or no such prohibitions, it's no big deal.
I've seen the same thing with the use of alcohol. There's an old joke which says that under our new liberal society, Catholics and eat meat on Friday, Jews can eat pork, and Baptists can drink in front of each other.
Apparently, we can dance in front of each other, too.
For example, in the 1930s in my church, during a business meeting, a member stood and accused a brother of dancing. He rose and said, "yes, I did dance, with my own wife, and I'm not sorry." The minutes of that meeting record that the church voted to withdraw fellowship.
His wife also said, yes, she had danced with her husband she was sorry, whereupon the church voted to forgive her.
Thirty years later, when I went to that church as minister of music, I met that old gentlemen and his wife. He was the oldest deacon in the church and his wife was a lovely woman. At some point he had been restored to fellowship, obviously.
Thirty years ago, we had a young pastor, 30-something, who said that dancing was basically a sexual exercise, and told our married members. "roll back the rug in your own home and have at it."
Today, dancing is a small issue or no issue at all in many Baptist churches, even the most conservative ones. We older folks are still the product of our cultures, and find little value in interpretive dance. To our younger believers, who've grown up with little or no such prohibitions, it's no big deal.
I've seen the same thing with the use of alcohol. There's an old joke which says that under our new liberal society, Catholics and eat meat on Friday, Jews can eat pork, and Baptists can drink in front of each other.
Apparently, we can dance in front of each other, too.
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OldRegular
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I once had a pastor who said that Baptists thought the four cardinal sins were: Drinkin, Dancin, Smokin, and Cussin! [However, being strongly against imbibing he cautioned against the use of wine vinegar.] Whether the above are cardinal sins or not is open to discussion but they should not be done as a part of the worship service, and that includes dancin, interpretative or not!
As an exception to the above I personally believe that wine was used in the first Lord's Supper!
As an exception to the above I personally believe that wine was used in the first Lord's Supper!
saturneptune
New Member
If you would walk up to the front of the church doing the Funky Chicken during invitation time, that could be interpreted that a church pot luck with fried chicken is just a few minutes away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYt_l6LZ5Kc&feature=related
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Whats Invitation Time?
Many pastors have a time at the end of the service, prior to dismissal, that they welcome people to go forward for prayer or to make a profession of faith....that kind of thing. I know some who do not think you have preached unless you have this specific invitation given.
Yea Arminians!
SovereignMercy
Member
Grew up in a "church" that did the same goofy thing.
Let's see now. It's taken up to 95 postings (and 10 pages of BB!!), and yet N
NE has yet come up with THE solution to this MAJOR DOCTRINAL issue??!!??
Whatsamadderyou??!!??
Okay, boys & girls, lads & lassies, HERE IT IS:
1) We take a bunch of 65YO+ bi-sexual sumo-rasslers (R U payin' attention, John of Japan??!!??)
2) Larn 'em how tah do that thar sine lingo
3) Get AliveInChrist PLUS his very own banjo simphoney orchestra to sorta fill in wid dah musick
4) While TammyFae and Joyce Meyer explain to y'all nucullheaded, aret-hatin' whatever's what those there #1's are a fixin' tah tell y'all's what they's a doin' afore dat thar' platform goes tah 'bustin tah smithereens and gets dem thar folks dah are a' sittin' on that thar a morners bench up front all bum-a-fuster'd and takes tah a-leevin' lickity split out the back door a fore dem thar sumo rasslers starts tah jumpin' on 'em!!!!
Thar y'all have it!!!
Took me just a 1 single post to settle dah issue rat smart!!!!!
(....Not really any of dat der "rocket science' tah it at awe, now wart it??!!??):smilewinkgrin::thumbsup::tongue3:
NE has yet come up with THE solution to this MAJOR DOCTRINAL issue??!!??Whatsamadderyou??!!??
Okay, boys & girls, lads & lassies, HERE IT IS:
1) We take a bunch of 65YO+ bi-sexual sumo-rasslers (R U payin' attention, John of Japan??!!??)
2) Larn 'em how tah do that thar sine lingo
3) Get AliveInChrist PLUS his very own banjo simphoney orchestra to sorta fill in wid dah musick
4) While TammyFae and Joyce Meyer explain to y'all nucullheaded, aret-hatin' whatever's what those there #1's are a fixin' tah tell y'all's what they's a doin' afore dat thar' platform goes tah 'bustin tah smithereens and gets dem thar folks dah are a' sittin' on that thar a morners bench up front all bum-a-fuster'd and takes tah a-leevin' lickity split out the back door a fore dem thar sumo rasslers starts tah jumpin' on 'em!!!!
Thar y'all have it!!!
Took me just a 1 single post to settle dah issue rat smart!!!!!
(....Not really any of dat der "rocket science' tah it at awe, now wart it??!!??):smilewinkgrin::thumbsup::tongue3:
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Mrs. John Piper demonstrating an in-the-temple 'Curly Shuffle':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZefvGKZValk
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Tom Butler
New Member
Do you suppose that there actually are some people who think that if they consider the Funky Chicken an act of worship, it must be?
And, would it require somebody to have the gift of interpreting the dance with a spiritual application?