Iran bombs Israel

[Van]

Iran and Russia have a strong alliance, all it takes is for Putin to convince China it's in their interest to step in and make a presence in the Middle East with their usual threats, and we are staring WW3 in the face.

If the fear of possibly causing nuclear war emasculates our defense of our allies, how do we "stand with Israel?"

Under the Democrats, we have:
1) Invasion of Crimea and Ukraine
2) War waged against Israel by funding Iran and her proxies.
3) The brink of WWIII

I do not pretend to know the answer, what should be our foreign policy.

However I think Mr. Trump and his team (Vance, Pompeo, Kushner and Musk) might have a successful plan. That is my prayer.

 

[Charlie24]

If the fear of possibly causing nuclear war emasculates our defense of our allies, how do we "stand with Israel?"

Under the Democrats, we have:
1) Invasion of Crimea and Ukraine
2) War waged against Israel by funding Iran and her proxies.
3) The brink of WWIII

I do not pretend to know the answer, what should be our foreign policy.

However I think Mr. Trump and his team (Vance, Pompeo, Kushner and Musk) might have a successful plan. That is my prayer.

For the book of Revelation to fulfill itself, there is one of two possibilities, as I see it.

America falls in line with the UN (no friend of Israel by any means) with a Harris victory, or we are not as close to the end as I think and Trump prolongs the fulfillment with a victory.

Sooner or later the world will turn on Israel and God will act with total destruction. You can read about it in Ezekiel 37-38, the Battle of Armageddon.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The draft sounds great! All those daughters headed to the front line. Be sure to target college and university graduates who had their mandatory gender studies. Put them before the chariot of Biden.

I was thinking about providing illegals citizenship if they wanted to sign up to the military for 4 to 8 years….3 squares and fitness classes. Marines should be the 1st point of entry.

 

[Christforums]

I was thinking about providing illegals citizenship if they wanted to sign up to the military for 4 to 8 years….3 squares and fitness classes. Marines should be the 1st point of entry.

Both Israel and South Korea are a desirable model for mandatory draft.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I suppose the next step will be to Black Out America by Israel. The leaking of intel and television coverage. Round up the reporters and Americans and send them tail dragging out of Israel. Bad enough America leaks everything. Perhaps, Hollywood directors are there probing around for another movie in the works.

One of the things which always disgust. Zero Dark Thirty the movie also came about by leaks. Nobody trust America anymore and there's no defense for the leaks other than not to trust America with any intel.

Corporate spies everywhere just reporting back to business on American soil. Used to be only American citizens could own property and citizens had to own property to vote. Wonder why! Excuse my sarcasm.

Define property… not the human kind because that would involve reparations. And aren’t the middle class all supposed to pay them… so pony up Kamela.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Both Israel and South Korea are a desirable model for mandatory draft.

Of course you are speaking of Israeli current draft (involving both men and women). I haven’t considered Russia and the Ukraine meaning I haven’t considered those draft policies. I do like the Roman republics 25 year with a pension however.

 

[kyredneck]

God doesn't need my two cents worth on the identity of His chosen people.

I think He has that under control.

3 for we are the circumcision, who worship by the Spirit of God, and glory in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh: Phil 3

 

[kyredneck]

I believe we are witnessing the events that bring this prophecy to fulfillment.

Futurists have been saying that for centuries....

 

[Charlie24]

Futurists have been saying that for centuries....

That's true! I'm not making a prediction, I'm saying "I believe" it could happen.

Only God knows when the time is here for the fulfillment.

What we are witnessing with Israel now could be just another page in their long history, or we could be on verge of witnessing major Biblical prophecy taking place.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Israel, probably do better if America stood down and said nothing. But I imagine Americans can't keep their mouth shut and must fire away passive aggressively at Israel as if America knows how to win this war on four fronts.

What is incredible is that the missile defense system was capable of shooting down hypersonic weapons which change trajectory from Iran. Israel developed its own missile defense system despite the criticism of America. America wanted to sell Israel its Patriot 2 system and later developed defense, and criticized Israel for the costs of its missiles. The contrast at the time was ten times more.

What is the value of the life of a single Jew today?

Ask the American tax payer who is footing the bill. so what’s Kamela going to do about it… oh I know, raise taxes on the rich! If I was them (and I’m not, I’m working class) I’d consider leaving the States.

 

[Christforums]

Ask the American tax payer who is footing the bill. so what’s Kamela going to do about it… oh I know, raise taxes on the rich! If I was them (and I’m not, I’m working class) I’d consider leaving the States.

They already have in business. I went and bought a guitar for example. First time in the guitar shop the guy or salesman was informing me about how great American guitars are and the resell value. Fender makes guitars both in America and overseas. Two years later I went in to make my purchase and among the staff were "cheap labor." I was informed oversea products are made to exact specifications but for a fraction of the labor costs. I suppose doing business in America is like doing business with organized crime. To stay in business a business owner must comply. Anyways, was amusing, not only how the sales pitch changed but also his tune when I reminded him of what he said before among his cheap labor present.

I am happy with my guitar designed in Germany but manufactured to exact specs in China.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

They already have in business. I went and bought a guitar for example. First time in the guitar shop the guy or salesman was informing me about how great American guitars are and the resell value. Fender makes guitars both in America and overseas. Two years later I went in to make my purchase and among the staff were "cheap labor." I was informed oversea products are made to exact specifications but for a fraction of the labor costs. I suppose doing business in America is like doing business with organized crime. To stay in business a business owner must comply. Anyways, was amusing, not only how the sales pitch changed but also his tune when I reminded him of what he said before among his cheap labor present.

I am happy with my guitar designed in Germany but manufactured to exact specs in China.

What did you finally buy?

 

[KenH]

Futurists have been saying that for centuries....

Seems like any time that there is a ruckus in the Middle East that the Premillennialists get all in an eschatological tizzy about it.

Personally, I like William Hendriksen's commentary on the book of Revelation, More Than Conquerors. Free pdf: Hendricksen-W-More_Than_Conquerors_-1940.pdf (tn-biblecollege.edu)

 

[Christforums]

What did you finally buy?

Ortega Private Room collection: Sunburst Eclipse. My first nylon stringed guitar.

 

[Christforums]

Seems like any time that there is a ruckus in the Middle East that the Premillennialists get all in an eschatological tizzy about it.

Personally, I like William Hendriksen's commentary on the book of Revelation, More Than Conquerors. Free pdf: Hendricksen-W-More_Than_Conquerors_-1940.pdf (tn-biblecollege.edu)

Could you imagine, seriously, being in the thick of battle and "your" text was used by outsiders? I refer to the OT, and one of the things I considered in the past was the lack of elaboration about geography during battles throughout the OT. Not a lot of information was given, information in which could of been used against the Israelites.

Interestingly, as you pointed out are the different schools of thought not only in Eschatology. However, there is a premise in which premillennialist fall upon, the battle we observe is always the final epicenter of all battles. Personally, eschatology falls into a prophetic area or field of study where false prophecy isn't always considered against credibility. If only credibility was considered then the crying wolf camp might be ignored altogether today.

Shalom

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Ortega Private Room collection: Sunburst Eclipse. My first nylon stringed guitar.

Martin guitars made in Pennsylvania: Most Martin guitars are made in Nazareth, Pennsylvania. But they do make some in Mexico. My sons left handed so I might buy one from them..they are somewhat local to me.

 

[Charlie24]

Seems like any time that there is a ruckus in the Middle East that the Premillennialists get all in an eschatological tizzy about it.

Personally, I like William Hendriksen's commentary on the book of Revelation, More Than Conquerors. Free pdf: Hendricksen-W-More_Than_Conquerors_-1940.pdf (tn-biblecollege.edu)

I'm new here and feeling out things. It seems that Reformed Theology runs through the ranks here.

I suppose if I hang around I'll learn some more about that.

 

[kyredneck]

I suppose if I hang around I'll learn some more about that.

You should make effort to do just that!

 

[Charlie24]

You should make effort to do just that!

Meaning that you ascribe to Reformed Theology, or...?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I'm new here and feeling out things. It seems that Reformed Theology runs through the ranks here.

I suppose if I hang around I'll learn some more about that.

You got allot of Arminians and Pelagians in here as well. There is even a Catholic but by our guidelines, he can’t participate in Baptist threads. And you will learn because iron sharpens iron. Anyway welcome to the Baptist forum.

 

[Charlie24]

You got allot of Arminians and Pelagians in here as well. There is even a Catholic but by our guidelines, he can’t participate in Baptist threads. And you will learn because iron sharpens iron. Anyway welcome to the Baptist forum.

Thanks!

Well those guys are certainly not short in boldness (RT), but neither am I.

I can foresee some interesting conversation.