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Iran's Bomb

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Jan 22, 2006.

  1. fromtheright

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    Ken,

    And I thought this is supposed to be a board that exhibited Christian values.

    I really am amazed now. Are you now making the argument I saw from someone else recently, that "Jesus loves, therefore we should never bomb anyone"? Jesus's kingdom is not of this world, nor does this world of fallen man govern itself according to His principles. It can't. What we can seek, however, is justice and defense of our country and its values.
     
  2. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    I don't support the concept of indescriminately bombing a country - killing civilians - with whom we are not even at war.

    We were sold a pig in a poke by the Bush administration before we invaded Iraq. I would think that Christians would be discerning enough not to buy into another one this time.

    Let's see proof that:

    1) Iran is trying to build a nuclear bomb,

    AND

    2) Iran, if number 1) is true, intends to use a nuclear bomb in a first strike.

    Then those filled with war fever will have a basis to convince me and the rest of the country that military action is warranted against Iran. But unless such proof is given - forgetaboutit.
     
  3. fromtheright

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    So, is that your answer to the question I asked you on page one of this thread?
     
  4. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    So, ftr, you totally discount that Iran could actually be trying to develop nuclear power and would disperse its efforts even if it had no intention of building a nuclear weapon, knowing what Israel did to Iraq about 25 years ago?

    Look, as I have been saying, provide proof that:

    1) Iran is trying to build and nuclear weapon

    AND

    2) Iran, if 1) is true, is intending to use it in a first strike.

    I would think those two conditions would be required by any person looking at this situation in a balanced, Christian way.
     
  5. fromtheright

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    Ken, I'm not wild about carrying on two different conversations on the same topic. That's your prerogative, but I would refer you to my answer to the same question you just posed on THIS THREAD.
     
  6. KenH

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    I've stated my position, ftr. If I and my fellow Americans are provided with the proof of the two conditions I have stated, then those hot for war will have my attention.
     
  7. fromtheright

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    Well-stated and clear. Thanks, Ken.
     
  8. NiteShift

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    That pretty much takes military action off the table, doesn't it? Until the Iranians actually use a nuclear weapon.

    I very much doubt that the Bush adminstration wants to be involved militarily on another front, so why speak as if they do?

    The Iranian government can put everyone's fears to rest by cooperating with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), but are refusing to do so. The director of the IAEA, Mohamed ElBaradei, cannot confirm that Iran's program has a peaceful objective.

    Iran possesses the world's 4th largest oil reserves, and expects everyone to believe that it needs nuclear power??
     
  9. Scott J

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    I have evidence that contradicts your statement:

    LINK
    </font>[/QUOTE]You'll need more than that.

    What did you expect them to say? "We hate being officially second class citizens under al sharia?" or maybe "No, its fine that we live under the threat of death if we attempt to evangelize?" or possibly "Certainly not, we don't mind have our daughters raped and forced to convert to Islam?" or then again "It is fine with us that the justices system arbitrarily takes the side of muslims if we truthfully accuse them of committing crimes against us?"

    These things are typical of nations under Muslim control as reported by Gospel for Asia and the Barnabas Foundation.
     
  10. LadyEagle

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    And I thought this is supposed to be a board that exhibited Christian values. Evidently, my mistake when on this board the bombing of just whoever happens to be in the way in Iran is so easily posted without a second thought. </font>[/QUOTE]Oh, okay. I'll rephrase it. Much less blood and treasury would be spent if we just nuked Iran. It's called preemptive.
     
  11. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    The Iraq War intelligence fiasco pretty much discredited the preventive war idea.
     
  12. Baptist in Richmond

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    Come on, Ken: you know better than that. Just listen to Hannity and Limbaugh.... not only were the WMD's there, but the whole ordeal has been a resounding success!!

    Regards to you,
    BiR
     
  13. NiteShift

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    Many Iraqis think it was a resounding success:

    "The Kurds of Iraqi Kurdistan just want to say thank you for helping us win our freedom. Thank you for democracy. Thank you America....We feel the mainstream media is focusing on the negative stories coming out of Iraq and very rarely highlighting the good news.”

    Link: Gratitude

    ...

    And in Kansas on the 23rd:

    "Q Hello, Mr. President. I am an American Iraqi Kurd. I would like to salute you and salute all the troops are freeing 27 million people. They are free.

    THE PRESIDENT: Thank you.

    Q Mr. President, I would like to share this thought with all our nation and everybody who is questioning what happened to the chemical weapons. Saddam burned 4,500 villagers. I lost more than 10 members of my family under the ground. We found their bones after, when we freed Iraq. Saddam, himself, and his people, his followers, they are chemical weapons. Please stop questioning the administration and their decision. It was the best decision anybody could take. Freeing 27 million people."

    Link:
    Iraqi gratitude_
     
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