Is America's Identity as a Largely Protestant Nation Ending?

[Earth Wind and Fire]

If America became mostly Roman Catholic it would be terrible for the nation.

Open your eyes RB, your already there...see stats below :laugh::laugh:

Biggest church in the U.S.: The Catholic Church, with 63.4 million adherents

Fastest-growing denomination: Evangelical Christianity

Fastest-shrinking: Protestant

Estimated number of Muslims in the United States: Between 3 million and 6 million

Average percent of American mosque-goers who are converts: 30

Percent of these American Muslim converts who are white: 27

Most common age of all conversions: Between 20 and 29

Number one reason people convert: Marriage

Number two reason: Spiritual dissatisfaction

Number three reason: Friends in different church

 

[billwald]

>Average percent of American mosque-goers who are converts: 30

>Percent of these American Muslim converts who are white: 27

>Most common age of all conversions: Between 20 and 29

Many young black people convert because white people have taught them to hate Christianity because it is perceived as a white religion.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

>Average percent of American mosque-goers who are converts: 30

>Percent of these American Muslim converts who are white: 27

>Most common age of all conversions: Between 20 and 29

Many young black people convert because white people have taught them to hate Christianity because it is perceived as a white religion.

Because Jews started it Im guessing? Here is truly a white religion "NAZISM" ...thats scary white.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

Open your eyes RB, your already there...see stats below :laugh::laugh:

Biggest church in the U.S.: The Catholic Church, with 63.4 million adherents

Fastest-growing denomination: Evangelical Christianity

Fastest-shrinking: Protestant

Estimated number of Muslims in the United States: Between 3 million and 6 million

Average percent of American mosque-goers who are converts: 30

Percent of these American Muslim converts who are white: 27

Most common age of all conversions: Between 20 and 29

Number one reason people convert: Marriage

Number two reason: Spiritual dissatisfaction

Number three reason: Friends in different church

The labels are too broad. What is meant by Protestant? The PCUSA? And what is meant by Evangelical Christianity?

Seems too broad to me. I know this, Christ Jesus is saving people. These people love Him, reject the pope, love the Bible, love true Christians and deny themselves, this world, and all things.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I agree. But I wasnt in charge of the study & they didint put allot of detail in it. However it does give you an indication of the number of RCC in the country & wasnt your original concern a side from the rest?

 

[billwald]

>Because Jews started it Im guessing? Here is truly a white religion "NAZISM" ...thats scary white.

Say again?

 

[Matt Black]

A further comment re the whole debate about the level of government intervention -v- private charity (in particular church) provision: many here it seems are quite happy for the government to intervene in matters of sexual morality eg: banning gay 'marriage', and certain other aspects of 'social religious morality' eg: the hoo-ha over prayers in public schools, Ten Commandments in public buildings etc and yet I suspect these same individuals are not happy with government intervention in areas of 'economic morality' eg: helping the poor, the 'widows and orphans' and generally correcting economic injustices. I'm puzzled by this inconsistency: on the one hand, demanding intervention in the sphere of social morality but on then other hand with the same breath a ousting of government in the sphere of economic morality; it strikes me as a lopsided approach to 'liberty'.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

A further comment re the whole debate about the level of government intervention -v- private charity (in particular church) provision: many here it seems are quite happy for the government to intervene in matters of sexual morality eg: banning gay 'marriage', and certain other aspects of 'social religious morality' eg: the hoo-ha over prayers in public schools, Ten Commandments in public buildings etc and yet I suspect these same individuals are not happy with government intervention in areas of 'economic morality' eg: helping the poor, the 'widows and orphans' and generally correcting economic injustices. I'm puzzled by this inconsistency: on the one hand, demanding intervention in the sphere of social morality but on then other hand with the same breath a ousting of government in the sphere of economic morality; it strikes me as a lopsided approach to 'liberty'.

What liberty? We are following you into Socialism.

 

[Matt Black]

It is libertarian to demand that government be ousted from the sphere of economic morality and social morality; it is inconsistent and contradictory to cherry-pick from which one you would like it ousted.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

It is libertarian to demand that government be ousted from the sphere of economic morality and social morality; it is inconsistent and contradictory to cherry-pick from which one you would like it ousted.

I actually agree with you. I don't care about homosexual marriages as long as they don't require Churches to perform the ceremony for them. If a church of its own desire preforms it that's one thing but to enforce all churches would be a different issue. As long as it doesn't inhibit societal liberty to behave in a moral manner, I personally could care less. However, I should feel free to think the activity is wrong and teach my children its wrong.

 

[Matt Black]

That's fine; I respect your position.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

It is libertarian to demand that government be ousted from the sphere of economic morality and social morality; it is inconsistent and contradictory to cherry-pick from which one you would like it ousted.

Are we not an inconsistent & contradictory race of people? Why should the government not reflect that?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The Roman Republic at one time even had a political position known as Censor, to monitor the morals & character of the people. He could even levy fines & impose punishment for moral depravity. Im certain some in here would love to have a job like that where they could play god.

 

[Matt Black]

Are we not an inconsistent & contradictory race of people? Why should the government not reflect that?

Should we not as Christians do/ demand better than that?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Should we not as Christians do/ demand better than that?

Have we ever.....look at how we tear each other apart in here. do you feel that Christ was an idealist?

 

[Matt Black]

...and a realist too - look at some of His diatribes against the vicissitudes of human nature and hypocrisy in particular! Fortunately, He and His grace can do better than that...

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

...and a realist too - look at some of His diatribes against the vicissitudes of human nature and hypocrisy in particular! Fortunately, He and His grace can do better than that...

Yes but can man, rotten to the core ever possibly emulate that? I dont believe so & boards like this have not convinced me otherwise, quite the reverse.

 

[Matt Black]

I trust in God's grace, that "He Who began a good work in me" will finish it in Christ Jesus.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I trust in God's grace, that "He Who began a good work in me" will finish it in Christ Jesus.

Im shocked....coming from a Anglo-Catholic .... dont you know your going to hell? dont you also believe in works? :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Matt Black]

Reformed Catholic, if you don't mind! I'm not into that incense and other tat! Grace, grace and grace.