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Is Charlie Kirk a martyr?

Piper 2

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I think he was a murder victim. Whether he was a martyr in the "classical sense" or no, I don't know. But he started a huge movement that might end up in a civil war.
 
Charlie James Kirk = 153

(October 14, 1993 – September 10, 2025)

11,654 Days

Verse 11654 | 2 Chronicles 22:9 = 31 Age of Charlie

And he sought Ahaziah: and they caught him, (for he was hid in Samaria,) and brought him to Jehu: and when they had slain him, they buried him: Because, said they, he is the son of Jehoshaphat, who sought YHWH with all his heart. So the house of Ahaziah had no power to keep still the kingdom.

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Ben1445

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Charlie James Kirk = 153

(October 14, 1993 – September 10, 2025)

11,654 Days

Verse 11654 | 2 Chronicles 22:9 = 31 Age of Charlie

And he sought Ahaziah: and they caught him, (for he was hid in Samaria,) and brought him to Jehu: and when they had slain him, they buried him: Because, said they, he is the son of Jehoshaphat, who sought YHWH with all his heart. So the house of Ahaziah had no power to keep still the kingdom.

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A baby who dies on its first day- Genesis 1:1?? What does that mean?
Do you count gestation? God does. Not everyone is full term. It would get a little bit strange going around and asking people how long they were in the womb so you can assign them their life verse.

This is not exactly a biblical process. It would also change based on translations. There are too many variables to make this a valid consideration. Also, if you look only at what the verse is saying, it doesn’t match. The person being buried is the son of the person who sought the Lord.

I would not make a practice of this.
 
A baby who dies on its first day- Genesis 1:1?? What does that mean?
Do you count gestation? God does. Not everyone is full term. It would get a little bit strange going around and asking people how long they were in the womb so you can assign them their life verse.

This is not exactly a biblical process. It would also change based on translations. There are too many variables to make this a valid consideration. Also, if you look only at what the verse is saying, it doesn’t match. The person being buried is the son of the person who sought the Lord.

I would not make a practice of this.

joseph smith jr

( 12.23.1805 - 06.27.1844)

Result 14,066 days

Verse 14066 = 17 | Psalms 11:6 = 17

Upon the wicked
He shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion=107 of their cup.

joseph smith jr. and his brother hyrum smith were shot and killed when a mob stormed the jail where they were imprisoned. Amen

A1 - Z26

joseph smith jr = 170

Upon the wicked = 154

hyrum smith = 154


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Hebrew-English Languages 222

Shalt thou trust 222

Letters as numerals 222

Alphanumeric system 222

The Great Triple Two 222

Simple English Gematria 222

Knowledge shall increase 222

The Parable of the sower 222

The secret of the alphabet 222

A thousand years as a day 222

six thousand years 222

It is hidden in the alphabet 222

The great men of the earth 222

The end from the beginning 222 – Isaiah forty-six – ten 222

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure: Isaiah 46:10

Daniel 2:22 HE revealeth the deep and secret things, HE knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with Him

In the KJV the English word “Wisdom” occurs in 222 verses - Advanced Bible Search



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joseph smith jr

( 12.23.1805 - 06.27.1844)

Result 14,066 days

Verse 14066 = 17 | Psalms 11:6 = 17

Upon the wicked
He shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion=107 of their cup.

joseph smith jr. and his brother hyrum smith were shot and killed when a mob stormed the jail where they were imprisoned. Amen

A1 - Z26

joseph smith jr = 170

Upon the wicked = 154

hyrum smith = 154


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Hebrew-English Languages 222

Shalt thou trust 222

Letters as numerals 222

Alphanumeric system 222

The Great Triple Two 222

Simple English Gematria 222

Knowledge shall increase 222

The Parable of the sower 222

The secret of the alphabet 222

A thousand years as a day 222

six thousand years 222

It is hidden in the alphabet 222

The great men of the earth 222

The end from the beginning 222 – Isaiah forty-six – ten 222

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure: Isaiah 46:10

Daniel 2:22 HE revealeth the deep and secret things, HE knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with Him

In the KJV the English word “Wisdom” occurs in 222 verses - Advanced Bible Search



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You haven’t convinced me. There is nothing new under the sun and everything is common to man. You can apply just about anything to anyone.
If you died today, what is your Bible verse horoscope?
 

JonC

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Are we saying William Whittingham was a prophet (or the modern day verse system was given to him by God)?
 
Are we saying William Whittingham was a prophet (or the modern day verse system was given to him by God)?

Ask yourself this question

If God planned from the beginning to do a work like this, Could He?

James 1:17

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Or does He need our permission to do anything beyond what we can think or imagine?

Test the Evidence, Because answering a matter before getting the facts is foolishness.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
joseph smith jr

( 12.23.1805 - 06.27.1844)

Result 14,066 days

Verse 14066 = 17 | Psalms 11:6 = 17

Upon the wicked
He shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion=107 of their cup.

joseph smith jr. and his brother hyrum smith were shot and killed when a mob stormed the jail where they were imprisoned. Amen

A1 - Z26

joseph smith jr = 170

Upon the wicked = 154

hyrum smith = 154


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Hebrew-English Languages 222

Shalt thou trust 222

Letters as numerals 222

Alphanumeric system 222

The Great Triple Two 222

Simple English Gematria 222

Knowledge shall increase 222

The Parable of the sower 222

The secret of the alphabet 222

A thousand years as a day 222

six thousand years 222

It is hidden in the alphabet 222

The great men of the earth 222

The end from the beginning 222 – Isaiah forty-six – ten 222

Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure: Isaiah 46:10

Daniel 2:22 HE revealeth the deep and secret things, HE knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with Him

In the KJV the English word “Wisdom” occurs in 222 verses - Advanced Bible Search



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United States o’ America- 222
the proper name of my country.

New York, New York- 222
Apparently this is the place to live

Need I continue?
 

Ben1445

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The beginning
Gen. 2:22
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

The end.
Rev. 2:22
Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.


If only Eve had been given numerology before the fall!
 

JonC

Moderator
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Ask yourself this question

If God planned from the beginning to do a work like this, Could He?

James 1:17

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Or does He need our permission to do anything beyond what we can think or imagine?

Test the Evidence, Because answering a matter before getting the facts is foolishness.
God can do whatever He plans.

I am asking because this would be a second revelation occurred in the 16th century.

There are three obvious possibilities:

1. God did it.
2. Satan did it.
3. One can start with an event and look backwards to find about anything.

To test it you need a constant. Not when the US came into being and when somebody died, but when every public figure died, or every nation started. Without a constant it is just picking out instances that fit.

Now.....if it worked with everything that'd be cool. We could put our info in and see when we woukd leave this earth. We could see when a nation would fall, or another would come into power.

But if it only works backwards and only in some cases....I'd think of it as fanciful manipulation (finding what us not there).
 
United States o’ America- 222
the proper name of my country.

New York, New York- 222
Apparently this is the place to live

Need I continue?
Bathhouse barry = 163

barack hussein obama = 163

Make America Great Again = 163

One Hundred Sixty Three = 261

The United States of America = 261

Table of Nations

Verse 261 = 9 | Genesis 10:26 = 36 _ (45) 9 - Forty Five = 126

And Joktan begat Almodad, and Sheleph, and Hazarmaveth, and Jerah,


Donald John Trump - born on 06.14.1946 until election day on 11.5.2024 = 28634 days

Verse 28634 | 1 Corinthians 11:33

Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.

2+8+6+3+4 = 23

1+11+33 = 45

The 45th President of the USA

Crooks undertook the shooting immediately after the confrontation with the officer.

A few minutes into Trump's speech, starting at 6:11:33 p.m.

Verse 28634 = 23 +1= 24 = 6 Corinthians 11:33

 
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Ben1445

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Bathhouse barry = 163

barack hussein obama = 163

Make America Great Again = 163

One Hundred Sixty Three = 261

The United States of America = 261

Table of Nations

Verse 261 = 9 | Genesis 10:26 = 36 _ (45) 9

And Joktan begat Almodad, and Sheleph, and Hazarmaveth, and Jerah,


Donald John Trump - born on 06.14.1946 until election day on 11.5.2024 = 28634 days

Verse 28634 | 1 Corinthians 11:33

Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.

2+8+6+3+4 = 23

1+11+33 = 45

The 45th President of the USA

Crooks undertook the shooting immediately after the confrontation with the officer.

A few minutes into Trump's speech, starting at 6:11:33 p.m.

Verse 28634 = 23 +1= 24 = 6 Corinthians 11:33

You haven’t given me your Bible horoscope for the day!
 
You haven’t given me your Bible horoscope for the day!

The First Words spoken by the Almighty in Scripture "Yehi Or" have the numerical value of 232 in Hebrew. Translated "Let There Be Light"

My given name

First = 79
Middle = 47
Last = 106

Total 232

The Number 232 occurs in One Verse in the Holy Bible.

1 Kings 20:15
Then he numbered the young men of the princes of the provinces, and they were two hundred and thirty two: and after them he numbered all the people, even all the children of Israel, being seven thousand.

The first and last occurrences of Issachar in the Scriptures

Genesis Thirty - Eighteen = 251

Revelation Seven - Seven = 251

Two Hundred Fifty One = 232

1 Chronicles 12:32
And of the children of Issachar, which were men that had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do; the heads of them were two hundred; and all their brethren were at their commandment.

Two Hundred = 132

Now check what day this is for you, post the verse, that's an order.

Psalms 90:12
So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.
 
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Ben1445

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The First Words spoken by the Almighty in Scripture "Yehi Or" has the numerical value of 232 in Hebrew. Translated "Let There Be Light"

My given name

First = 79
Middle = 47
Last = 106

Total 232

The Number 232 occurs in One Verse in the Holy Bible.

1 Kings 20:15
Then he numbered the young men of the princes of the provinces, and they were two hundred and thirty two: and after them he numbered all the people, even all the children of Israel, being seven thousand.

The first and last occurrences of Issachar in the Scriptures

Genesis Thirty - Eighteen = 251

Revelation Seven - Seven = 251

Two Hundred Fifty One = 232

1 Chronicles 12:32
And of the children of Issachar, which were men that had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do; the heads of them were two hundred; and all their brethren were at their commandment.

Two Hundred = 132

Now check what day this is for you, post the verse, that's an order.

Psalms 90:12
So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.
Try all that Issachar stuff on Benjamin. Let me know if you find out if I should make friends with strangers today.
Really, I want to see how you manipulate the numbers to work.
 
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