Is Christian television truly Christian?

[Boanerges]

Originally posted by Johnv:
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A great show, eh Johnny?

There ya go, boney, on yet another pontification rampage. You completely ignore my questions to you, but when it suits you to hijack your own thread, you take it hook, line, and sinker.

One can only be led to believe that your OP was disengenuous. </font>[/QUOTE]In time Johnny.....in time....meanwhile I am going to let this develop a bit.

Originally posted by Johnv:
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Originally posted by Boanerges:
[qb]I am asking if these shows are appropriate for "Christian" television.[qb]

If that's true, then why have you not answered the question asked numerous times: What station are you referring to, and what programming in question are you referring to? Lacking that information, you haven't been able to demonstrate that a "Christian" station is running any such programming, and in your pontification, you have judged me falsely. </font>

The results will be in shortly. I am still researching and reviewing John my pal.

 

[eloidalmanutha]

I think I figured out what Boanerges is referring to. There is a Christian channel called Sky Angel that has recently added some secular programming to its lineup. It has MASH, murder mysteries, FOX News, and this guy named Michael Rood. I found some information about him here:

http://www.isitso.org/guide/rood.html

http://www.isitso.org/guide/roodawaken.html

Here is what they said about their new programming:

http://www.skyangel.com/About/Media.asp?IdS=001185-EAD7500&id=95

http://www.skyangel.com/Programming/Index.asp?IdS=001185-EAD7500&x=003|000&~=

I think that if a Christian channel is going to criticize secular programming, then it is probably not a good idea to then turn around and add some of it to their lineup.

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Boanerges:
In time Johnny.....in time....meanwhile I am going to let this develop a bit.

Oh, C'mon. The question was asked: What station are you referring to, and what programming are they airing that you have a problem with?

PS - I'm going to respectfully ask that you stop referring to me as Johnny. No one calls me that, and I don't recall giving you permission to do so. I've asked you to refrain int eh past, and you have ignored my request. The only reason I can think of for you to ignore such a resuest is disrespect.

The results will be in shortly. I am still researching and reviewing John my pal.

How can we respond accurately without knowing what station you're referring to?

Again, what station are you referring to, and what programmign is it that you have a problem with? There is no reason whatsoever to withhold that information. Lacking that information, you haven't been able to demonstrate that a "Christian" station is running any such programming, and in your pontification, you have judged me falsely.

Originally posted by eloidalmanutha:
I think I figured out what Boanerges is referring to. There is a Christian channel called Sky Angel that has recently added some secular programming to its lineup.

If that's correct, I don't see much of a problem there. Sky Angel does not promote itself as being exclusively Christian in the content of its programming. It promoted Christian and family friendly programming. I think M*A*S*H generally qualifies as family friendly, rarely, if ever, containing foul language, sexually graphic situations, or gratuitous violence. I'm frankly more concerned with Hal Lindsey being on Sky Angel than M*A*S*H.

 

[Boanerges]

I think M*A*S*H generally qualifies as family friendly, rarely, if ever, containing foul language, sexually graphic situations, or gratuitous violence.

Could you show me in Galatians 5 and 1 Corinthians 6 [as well as other passages] where I can find the word "rarely" as a criteria for what is acceptable.

 

[Johnv]

The only think you're accomplishing is your lack of sincerity in this thread. By your application, there is practically nothing, be it via stage, screen, or print, that is acceptible.

You continue to refuse to answer questions, while posing new questions of your own. Now, stop asking questions, and answer the questions that have been posed to you.

 

[Boanerges]

Originally posted by Johnv:
The only think you're accomplishing is your lack of sincerity in this thread. By your application, there is practically nothing, be it via stage, screen, or print, that is acceptible.

Not by my application John...by the Word, which is the only standard we can judge things by. So if a Chrisitan family thinks that it is good to sit around and laugh at sexual situations that are forbidden in the Bible, or drunkeness, that is forbidden in the Bible, or cross dressing, that is forbiddden in the Bible, what can I say? I'm speechless.

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Boanerges:
So if a Chrisitan family thinks that it is good to sit around and laugh at sexual situations that are forbidden in the Bible, or drunkeness, that is forbidden in the Bible, or cross dressing, that is forbiddden in the Bible...

That's not what this thread is about. This thread is about Christian television. You have completely refused to address questions about the OP, an OP which you started. That is evidence that your OP was dishonest.

... what can I say? I'm speechless.

Given that you disrespect fellow posters by not answering questions posed to you, your lack of speech is selective to the disrespect of others. Not to mention, the manner in which you wield the Word here is a perversion of the Word. I'd explain it to you, but you continually demonstrate a refusal to listen to other posters.

 

[Boanerges]

Originally posted by Johnv:
Not to mention, the manner in which you wield the Word here is a perversion of the Word. I'd explain it to you, but you continually demonstrate a refusal to listen to other posters.

John,

It is obvious that you are submerged in the things that the world has to offer, which as a professing Christian, is a dangerous place to be. Becuase of this, even if you decided to "explain it", I could not listen to you, because your concepts plainly do not line up with scripture.

Your pal,

Boney

aka. "thunder dude"

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Boanerges:
It is obvious that you are submerged in the things that the world has to offer...

Yeah, you've got all the answers, except to the questions posed to you in a thread.

... which as a professing Christian, is a dangerous place to be.

Professing Christians aren't dishonest, as you have been in this thread.

Becuase of this, even if you decided to "explain it", I could not listen to you, because your concepts plainly do not line up with scripture.

I look forward to the day when you develop the ability to have a respectful conversation.

 

[Boanerges]

I look forward to the day when you develop the ability to have a respectful conversation.

I look forward to the day, when I can have a conversation with you that is based on Scripture, and not on feelings.

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Boanerges:
I look forward to the day, when I can have a conversation with you that is based on Scripture, and not on feelings.

It's very sincere of you to admit that you've got a problem discerning your feelings and scripture. That's very adult of you. I wish you well in your spiritual growth.

 

[Boanerges]

Just for the record John, Eloi guessed what was behind door number 2 nine posts back. You can cease and desist with the pouting now Mr. B-Goode.

 

[Johnv]

And that excuses your unrighteous pontificating, how? Oh, wait, it doesn't. You can cease and desist with your holier than though attitude, Mr. Pharisee.

 

[Boanerges]

Originally posted by Johnv:
And that excuses your unrighteous pontificating, how? Oh, wait, it doesn't. You can cease and desist with your holier than though attitude, Mr. Pharisee.

When someone quotes scripture, and uses it as their only baseline, It really troubles you doesn't it John?

 

[Johnv]

Let it go. You were dishonest in this thread. You were disrespectful towards other psoters. You were unrighteous in your agenda. All the quoting from scripture in the world doesn't excuse your behavior. All you're doing is demonstrating your immaturity every time you post.

I'm willing to bet that you're so insistent on having the last word in a thread, that you'll find you have to respond after this post.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

Brethren, Brethren,

This is turning into something it should not. Step back and take a breather.

 

[Boanerges]

Originally posted by Johnv:

I'm willing to bet that you're so insistent on having the last word in a thread, that you'll find you have to respond after this post.

Nice try at intimidation, and then manipulation John, but unfortunately since you have made these accusations, I will put them to rest once and for all.

I asked if Christian television was really Christian. I then proved, that by a Biblical definition, it wasn't.There is no sliding scale when it comes to God's Word. If you can prove Scripturally that it is, then I will reconsider my statements (that I stand by).Until that time, you are shouting into the wind. The Bible John...use it as the plumbline.

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Boanerges:
I asked if Christian television was really Christian. I then proved, that by a Biblical defination, it wasn't.

You did no such thing. You never said what channel it was, and never said what programming it was that they were carrying. You asked about peoples' thoughts on the show M*A*S*H, but never said that this is what was being aired, and still did not identify the channel.

When another poster guessed at the channel in question, you still did not affirm it until cornered.

If you can prove Scripturally that it is, then I will reconsider my statements (that I stand by). Until that time, you are shouting into the wind. The Bible John...use it as the plumbline.

The problem is that you've started with a false premise. First, Sky Angel does not claim to be exclusively Christian. They promote Christian and family friendly faire. M*A*S*H qualifies, at least to some extent, as family friendly. I never said it was 100% wholesome or biblically consistent.

In other words, you're complaining about the existence of something based upon a false premise. The question was Is Christian Television Truly Christian?" Sky Angel doesn't claim to be "truly" or excusively Christian in programming content.

I personally don't have Sky Angel, but from what I can tell, I'll take most of what's on Sky Angel over most of what's on TBN any day.

 

[eloidalmanutha]

posted by Johnv:
The problem is that you've started with a false premise. First, Sky Angel does not claim to be exclusively Christian. They promote Christian and family friendly faire. M*A*S*H qualifies, at least to some extent, as family friendly. I never said it was 100% wholesome or biblically consistent.

In other words, you're complaining about the existence of something based upon a false premise. The question was Is Christian Television Truly Christian?" Sky Angel doesn't claim to be "truly" or excusively Christian in programming content. [/QB]

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M*A*S*H in church, youth centers ??????????

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by eloidalmanutha:
M*A*S*H in church, youth centers ??????????

I would wonder what a TV is doing in a youth center in the first place.

BTW, M*A*S*H is actually being shown on the Hallmark Channel, which is NOT a Christian station, but one of the channels available on Sky Angel.

Sky Angel has the following channels:

Guardian Television Network
Hallmark Channel
Hallmark Movie Channel
Safe TV Channel
FOX News Channel
KTV-Kids and Teens Television
HGTV
SPIRIT
The Worship Network
TVU
Faith TV
Liberty Channel
Three Angels Broadcasting Network
Total Living Network
Angel Two
Cornerstone Television
Angel One
Familyland
Golden Eagle Broadcasting
SuperChannel TBN