Is Christmas Scriptural?

[Bro. James]

A cursory examination of this "Christian?" "Holy Day" will show it to be pagan in origin and mostly a tradition of man.

What fellowship hath the temple of God with Belial?

Selah,

Bro. James

 

[untangled]

Bro. James,

I am just wondering: Do you not celebrate it at all? Even in a different way?

In Christ,

Brooks

 

[Johnv]

A cursory examination of the wedding custom of husbands and wives exchanging rings, throwing rice, and tossing the bouquet will show them to be of pagan origin.

A cursory examination of shaking hands will show it to be of pagan origin.

A cursory examination of the origin of names of the days of the week will show them to be of pagan origin.

A cursory examination of the origin of the word "God" will show it to be of pagan origin.

A cursory examination of the origin of the names of the planets will show them to be of pagan origin.

A cursory examination of the origin of Saturn and Mercury vehicles will show their names to be of pagan origin.

A cursory example of our our numbers will show them to be of pagan origin.

A cursory example of the word "disaster" will show it to be of pagan origin.

A cursory examination of the origin of deviled eggs won't show any pagan origin, but they sure taste good!!!

 

[Dr. Bob]

Jesus Christ was born. In a barn, not under an evergreen tree.

If I want to celebrate it July 1 or Dec 25 who are you to judge me?

If you do not want to celebrate it at all, who am I to judge you?

 

[Ed Edwards]

Thank you Brother JohnV.
I will avoid all those things.
I am also boycotting velcro - it is not mentioned
in the Bible
I also note a cursory examination of
my dollar bill shows it has pagan symbols
(the number for example) - I've been avoiding money.
Food is eaten by Pagans, i will abstain from it


The Law of Moses required that on the eighth day
a first male, who was sacred to God, should be
redeamed by sacrifice and circumcized.

Here is how I think it happend for Jesus:

Day 1 - 25 Dec 1BC
Day 2 - 26 Dec 1BC
Day 3 - 27 Dec 1BC
Day 4 - 28 Dec 1BC
Day 5 - 29 Dec 1BC
Day 6 - 30 Dec 1BC
Day 7 - 31 Dec 1BC
Day 8 - 1 Jan 1AD

 

[Bartimaeus]

JohnV,
I knew that if I hung around the board long enough you and I would be on the "same page" someday. It has finally arrived, what a happy day, I think I will celebrate. Wait a minute is this a pagan holiday? I better not my sister in law will draw up like a persimmon and tell me "it ain't Christian!".
Thanks ------Bart

 

[Bartimaeus]

I do not celebrate Christmas, but I do take time in my life to note the birth of my Saviour. If I get a Christmas card I thank those wonderful folks who thought of our family, if we get a present we are likewise thankful. I have a big issue with RC Doctrine and the "church" that goes with it so I, for me, and only for me, refrain. Others may not, and that's ok, they may have not been affected like I was, yet. I even have a hard time with the song "Faith of our Fathers" because it was written by a RC Priest for their followers. (according to the info I have on it)
Thanks -----Bart

 

[dianetavegia]

It's okay Bart! Today is Wednesday... Southern Baptist Wednesday go to Prayer Meeting day so it can't be a pagan holiday.

I'm with you and Johnv.

 

[wopik]

Let's hope God Almighty feels as light-hearted about the holiness we ascribe to reused pagan holidays as most Christians do.

Most Christian clergy wouldn't have the stomach or the wisdom to tell their congregation what an abomination it is to keep pagan days to the true God. "The Lord is the true God, he is the living God..." (Jeremiah 10:10). He deserves to be worshipped in sincerity and TRUTH.

If we do not love Truth, Yahweh Himself will send strong delusion that those that do not love Truth will believe a lie.

 

[Marcia]

Christmas is not scriptural in the sense it is found in scripture, but it is okay to celebrate the birth of Christ.

What matters is not the day but to whom are you paying honor?

Those who do not feel comfortable with Christmas trees, wreaths, presents, etc. should not observe Christmas and should not be criticized by those who do observe it. At the same time, these folks should not criticize Christians who do observe Christmas.

I went back and forth on this -- I was saved only a few days before Christmas of 1990. I observed Christmas that year joyfully -- my first Christmas as a believer. The following year, I was uncomfortable with it. Then I was okay with it. It changed several times. Right now, I am okay with Christmas but I do not like Santa Claus. He looks very pagan to me although he's supposed to be St. Nicholas who took gifts to children.

 

[Marcia]

I just realized this is the thread about Christmas from heck (hell) referred to by Dr. Bob!

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Originally posted by dianetavegia:
It's okay Bart! Today is Wednesday... Southern Baptist Wednesday go to Prayer Meeting day so it can't be a pagan holiday.

I'm with you and Johnv.

Don't forget, Wednesday was named after the Norse god Woden and tomorrow is "Thor's day"

"Let every man be fully convinced in HIS OWN mind..."

 

[DHK]

I agree with Bartimaeus for most of the reasons that he gives. I also do not celebrate Christmas. The difference between Christmas and all the other days that you good folk have mentioned (that have pagan origins), is that Christmas is a distinctly a religious festival. For example, Thursday is not associated with Christianity in any way, and is not celebrated as a Christian festival in any way. So who cares if it is named after a heathen god. It makes no difference in our lives.
But Christmas is when people say they celebrate the birth of Christ on a day when Christ was not born, and it is a day when the sun is, and was worshipped. It was the first day that there was a visible lengthening of the day after the shortest day of the year, when the heathen sun worshippers thought that the sun would disappear completely. Thus, on that day (the 25th) they held an orgy with immorality, drinking, merriment, feasting, etc. We have just taken over the same holiday and called it Christmas. It has nothing to do with the birth of Christ. It is paganism that is Christianized.

So eat drink and be merry; tomorrow is another day--like New Year's.

DHK

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Bartimaeus:
JohnV, I knew that if I hung around the board long enough you and I would be on the "same page" someday. It has finally arrived, what a happy day, I think I will celebrate.

It sure pleases the Lord when the brethren are in one accord.

My time on the board is short, and I will be out of town this weekend, so in case I miss anyone, 'yall have a blessed Thanksgiving. May you all be truly blessed! I'll be back after the weekend!

 

[Jim1999]

I do not celebrate this world's Christmas, but I do take advantage of the door the world has opened for me to present the truth about Jesus Christ, my Lord.

As for the santa Christmas, my grandchildren live in Florida and don't come to Canada until June,,we celebrate Santa Day then with their gifts etc.

On Christmas Day we attend our local church and then I go to the senior's residence to visit and pray with those who have no visitors...the special day affords this opportunity, so let's give thanks for Christmas Day.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[dianetavegia]

I just realized that Bart posted while I was posting and it looks like I agree with him and do NOT celebrate Christmas. That's incorrect. We DO celebrate Christmas.

Diane

 

[wopik]

Some people still call Christmas by its original name: MithraMass ---- when the Roman Church held a huge, sacred, holy midnight Mass - on Vatican hill - in honor of Sol Invictus, Mithra.

The Pontiff - usually the Roman Emperor - was the main speaker.

 

[Marcia]

It was the first day that there was a visible lengthening of the day after the shortest day of the year, when the heathen sun worshippers thought that the sun would disappear completely. Thus, on that day (the 25th) they held an orgy with immorality, drinking, merriment, feasting, etc. We have just taken over the same holiday and called it Christmas. It has nothing to do with the birth of Christ. It is paganism that is Christianized.

Except that now the Winter Soltice is around Dec 22nd, not the 25th. Pagans celebrate it on the Winter Solstice date, not the 25th.

 

[Pastor Larry]

Christmas is scriptural only if Christ was born. If you don't think Christ was born as a man, then don't celebrate that birth.

 

[HankD]

Except that now the Winter Soltice is around Dec 22nd, not the 25th. Pagans celebrate it on the Winter Solstice date, not the 25th.

Reread the note Marcia, December 25th is the first day after the winter solstice in which the day is discernably longer than the solstice, thus allegorically, Pagans considered December 25th the re-birthday of the sun.

HankD