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Is Divorce a Sin?
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Ernie Brazee
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Seems as though many here care not what the Lord said concerning this issue> Who cares what society accepts? The Lord Jesus Christ said with his own word remarriage of divorced persons is adultery! What more do you need? This can be debated till Jesus comes but his words won't change!
I find that there are those who care not what the word of God says if it conflicts with their opinion.
I find that there are those who care not what the word of God says if it conflicts with their opinion.
I just wanted to say something. I'm so surprised out how many Christians can ignore what Jesus Himself said about divorce.
Be careful how you judge others; you may be there one day too.
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and more from Paul
The above verses are all God's Word's too. God care's and provides for those who've done nothing wrong to contribute to a bad marriage/separation/divorce.
Be careful how you judge others; you may be there one day too.
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dianetavegia
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Audzy, abuse is not given as a Biblical reason for divorce.
Ernie, I strongly believe in NO divorce. NO divorce... but I strongly believe Jesus when He said He is faithful and just to forgive ALL sin! Again, to say God picks and chooses sins to forgive takes power from the cross of My Lord and Savior! (Remember... I am NOT divorced!)
I would certainly vote you into my church! Being divorced is no worse a sin that any other and the Lord knows I'm not sin free! There is NO spot on our application for church membership that asks if you are divorced.
Diane
Ernie, I strongly believe in NO divorce. NO divorce... but I strongly believe Jesus when He said He is faithful and just to forgive ALL sin! Again, to say God picks and chooses sins to forgive takes power from the cross of My Lord and Savior! (Remember... I am NOT divorced!)
I would certainly vote you into my church! Being divorced is no worse a sin that any other and the Lord knows I'm not sin free! There is NO spot on our application for church membership that asks if you are divorced.
Diane
Do you realize the implications of what you just wrote? It really seems like you are saying that all of our sins are paid for that were prior to our salvation, but all bets are off for what we do after salvation. Because we all still sin even after salvation. Am I right, or is it just me that still falls short in the sinless department?
Yes, we became new, but sinless?Headcoveredlady
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Please seperate yourself *physically* from a person who is abusing you or your children.
But, don't divorce that person. You *can* win them without a word by your testimony see 1 Peter 3.
If they divorce you, you are not bound as the Word says.
Yes, divorce is forgiven through the blood of Jesus.
But, the Word says remarriage while your spouse is still alive is adultery.
Diane,
I appreciate your posts in this thread. You have been kind and reasonable.
Divorce (or any sin) is never something to be proud of but it also shouldn't be used to condemn someone for the rest of their lives either. It really seems to me that some would have those that are marked with the big "D" segregated into our own religious subculture, or at least isolated toward the back corner where we can hide our shame in the shadows.
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dianetavegia
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HCL:
If the previous spouse has remarried and there is no chance of them reuniting?
Again, God forgives and forgets all sin that is truely repented of... and if he has forgiven and forgotten the divorce...??
Jesus told the woman at the well to "Go and sin no more". He did not tell her to return to her first husband. He did not tell her she would be in continual sin for the rest of her life for her divorce.... of 5 husbands...!
Maybe God should tattoo everyone of us with every sin we've ever committed so we wouldn't be so quick to point fingers at those brothers and sisters we are judging on this thread.
Did you EVER look at someone in a lustful way? Fornication or adultery
Did you EVER tell a white lie?
Liar and deceitful person
Did you EVER speak out of turn or gossip?
The list goes on and one.... and NONE of these will enter into the kindgom of heaven.
And how would a divorced and remarried person remedy this? Another divorce? Refuse to ever have relations with their new spouse again?
If the previous spouse has remarried and there is no chance of them reuniting?
Again, God forgives and forgets all sin that is truely repented of... and if he has forgiven and forgotten the divorce...??
Jesus told the woman at the well to "Go and sin no more". He did not tell her to return to her first husband. He did not tell her she would be in continual sin for the rest of her life for her divorce.... of 5 husbands...!
Maybe God should tattoo everyone of us with every sin we've ever committed so we wouldn't be so quick to point fingers at those brothers and sisters we are judging on this thread.
Did you EVER look at someone in a lustful way? Fornication or adultery
Did you EVER tell a white lie?
Liar and deceitful person
Did you EVER speak out of turn or gossip?
The list goes on and one.... and NONE of these will enter into the kindgom of heaven.
Diane
AdoptedDaughter
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Yep.
Daniel David
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It is horrible to say I have no desire to beat someone up? What in the world are you talking about?
AD, I hope you were kidding, when you said "yup", to never having relations with your "new" husband again.
Read the marriage bed thread, and you will see that this is also, a sin! You can't say no, because you are opening the door to temptation for your husband, almost, but not quite, making him commit adultry, by saying no.
Much of the thread was deleted, but if you read some of the remarks you will be able to tell what was said.
When a "saved" person asks for forgiveness, they are forgiven and cleansed. We are not only forgiven for sin which we comit prior to salvation. God forgives all sin (if asked), he does not discriminate and hold some people more accountable than others.
Christine
Read the marriage bed thread, and you will see that this is also, a sin! You can't say no, because you are opening the door to temptation for your husband, almost, but not quite, making him commit adultry, by saying no.
Much of the thread was deleted, but if you read some of the remarks you will be able to tell what was said.
When a "saved" person asks for forgiveness, they are forgiven and cleansed. We are not only forgiven for sin which we comit prior to salvation. God forgives all sin (if asked), he does not discriminate and hold some people more accountable than others.
Christine
Daniel David
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Just popped into this thread, and though this is about 10 pages late...
Take Wife A and Husband B. Husband B beats Wife A, and Wife A files for divorce.
Is it a sin for Wife A? </font>[/QUOTE]Separation from such a spouse is the first step. Second, getting the police involved is next. I am always against such a man. It is evil to damage what God has given us the strength to protect.
To answer your question, yes, it is sin. Divorce according to Jesus is the result of a hard heart. I don't know why people ignore that and overlook it.
Remember the story about the servant who owed a great debt and was forgiven and would not forgive the one who owed him a miniscule debt?
What Christian ever has the right to have a hard heart?
I'd say the hardness of heart is the jerk that cheats on his wife repeatedly or dares to take his fist to her.
But from what Jesus said, He was referring to the Israelites who wanted to have many wives and cucubines and to divorce for frivolous reasons. Jesus said that wasn't right, and He said fornication would be the only reason.
Ernie Brazee
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Where is the clause for remarriage? Speaking of fornication, not adultery! The adultery is those who remarry!!
Matthew 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
The Lord was very specific here, it is modern man, who rejects the word of God, that okay's remarriage!
Matthew 19:3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
The Lord was very specific here, it is modern man, who rejects the word of God, that okay's remarriage!
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richard79408
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Greetings,
There is a ton of honest and sincere misinformation here concerning marriage, divorce and remarriage.
So, to those and those only who want to view the whole story--you might give this site a try.
It is mine and currently--not open to the whole wide world--although it has been and will be again shortly.
http://www.yesforfamilies.com/religion/marriage/
You will learn some things that are for want of a better term I identify as the "tradionalist" that need some work.
Let me hasten to add, that I am not an expert here but I am a good researcher and have a vast amount of curosity.
If you have been divorced and have remarried--this will prove to be very beneficial to you. There is history in it and some old English and you will learn of God's divorce of Israel.
When we study this subject I am reminded of a song that I hear occassionally on my oldies radio and I cannot remember the name of it..But you have probably heard it--The Son grows up to be just like me--so says the Dad in the Song.And, the boy has done exactly that..
We are like that when it comes to bible study
we are what we have been taught or learned.
Not a bad thing but when it comes to studying the word it does allow our past to influence our thinking and conclusions--esp in MDR.
Enjoy the study--it well may have some discussions that you have not run into before in it.
Richard79408
There is a ton of honest and sincere misinformation here concerning marriage, divorce and remarriage.
So, to those and those only who want to view the whole story--you might give this site a try.
It is mine and currently--not open to the whole wide world--although it has been and will be again shortly.
http://www.yesforfamilies.com/religion/marriage/
You will learn some things that are for want of a better term I identify as the "tradionalist" that need some work.
Let me hasten to add, that I am not an expert here but I am a good researcher and have a vast amount of curosity.
If you have been divorced and have remarried--this will prove to be very beneficial to you. There is history in it and some old English and you will learn of God's divorce of Israel.
When we study this subject I am reminded of a song that I hear occassionally on my oldies radio and I cannot remember the name of it..But you have probably heard it--The Son grows up to be just like me--so says the Dad in the Song.And, the boy has done exactly that..
We are like that when it comes to bible study
we are what we have been taught or learned.
Not a bad thing but when it comes to studying the word it does allow our past to influence our thinking and conclusions--esp in MDR.
Enjoy the study--it well may have some discussions that you have not run into before in it.
Richard79408
R
richard79408
Guest
Greetings,
Try going past baptism try reading the history of the MDR movement--
Again, for those who want to learn about MDR--just read the files that deal with it.
Try applying your present understanding of Marriage, Divorce an Remarriage to the four types of marriages recognized by God at Corinth. it makes an interesting study.
Richard
Try going past baptism try reading the history of the MDR movement--
Again, for those who want to learn about MDR--just read the files that deal with it.
Try applying your present understanding of Marriage, Divorce an Remarriage to the four types of marriages recognized by God at Corinth. it makes an interesting study.
Richard