Is Eating Pork Wrong?

[Daisy]

Eating pork and drinking wine is like comparing apples to oranges. It's fine to eat pork, since pork is considered a food with nutrients (although some groups of people are not allowed to eat pork), alcohol (fermented wine), on the other hand, is NOT a food and has NO nutritional value to it. It is a drug.

Wine - and beer - do have nutritional value as well as medicinal value - red wine is particularly rich in flavenoids. It's good for the heart and soothes the mind (in moderation, of course).

Pork, the other white meat, is tasty, especially Chinese roast pork. Mmmmm, nummers, nummers.

 

[Brother Bob]

Pork, the other white meat, is tasty, especially Chinese roast pork. Mmmmm, nummers, nummers.

I like the greasy part such as bacon, its bacon, its bacon and sausage and you can throw in some pork chops while you at it. Other than that I won't hardly eat pork.:laugh: :laugh:

 

[Linda64]

no pigs are not clean. they have pores in the bottom of their feet - something for sweat or something other. and when the gets clogged - puss starts to go into their system and into the meat. pigs are scavengers. bottom feeders.

they sick dirty animals and shouldn't be eaten. leviticus demands it. if you eat it you are disobeying God. and will go to hell for it.

im sorry. if you want to eisegete the scriptures and say pork is ok to eat. then go right ahead. im just warning you.

If you are going to say that pigs are not clean---let me ask you this: have you ever visited a poultry processessing plant--like Tyson? The Levitical dietary laws were given to Israel--they didn't have our modern day methods of butchering animals. We are not under the Levitical dietary laws now. Like I said previously in this thread, there are certain groups of people whose doctrines and teachings prohibit the eating of pork. It's true, that pork is not the healthiest meat to consume, but I prefer pork (I was raised Jewish) to chicken. Also, check into how hot dogs are made.

 

[Jim1999]

Well, if there are holes in the pigs feet man put them there. Actually pigs have no bodily way to release heat...one of the reasons they will roll in mud.

Pigs are really a very clean animal, given half a chance. I don't know what the animals were back in Lev. I love people who refuse to move to the century in which we live, and ignore te New Testament to boot...

Cheers,

Jim

 

[Linda64]

Wine - and beer - do have nutritional value as well as medicinal value - red wine is particularly rich in flavenoids. It's good for the heart and soothes the mind (in moderation, of course).

Pork, the other white meat, is tasty, especially Chinese roast pork. Mmmmm, nummers, nummers.

Don't want to start the wine-beer debate again, but when my late husband was alive, he consumed wine and beer like it was going out of style (he died from ethanol toxicity). He took humungous amounts of vitamins to counteract the effects the alcohol had on his body. Any nutritional value that wine and beer have does NOT come from the alcohol--it comes from the FRUIT or GRAIN (whatever nutritional value is left after fermentation kills the fruit or grain). It's a known fact that ethanol destroys vitamins your body needs--look at any book on nutrition and vitamins.

 

[LeBuick]

Eating pork and drinking wine is like comparing apples to oranges. It's fine to eat pork, since pork is considered a food with nutrients (although some groups of people are not allowed to eat pork), alcohol (fermented wine), on the other hand, is NOT a food and has NO nutritional value to it. It is a drug.

The wine thread is closed, BTW.

It now seems clear that regular consumption of up to 1-2 drinks a day (1 standard drink is approximately equal to 5 oz, or 125 ml, of 13% wine) does reduce mortality, due to a 10%–40% lower risk of coronary heart disease, especially for those over the age of 35 or so (see Alcohol consumption and health).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_consumption_and_health

 

[gekko]

Also, check into how hot dogs are made.

i really dont care how hotdogs are made from pork and intestines or whatever else.

i eat hebrew national kosher 100% beef hotdogs.

It now seems clear that regular consumption of up to 1-2 drinks a day (1 standard drink is approximately equal to 5 oz, or 125 ml, of 13% wine) does reduce mortality, due to a 10%–40% lower risk of coronary heart disease, especially for those over the age of 35 or so (see Alcohol consumption and health).

haha. great one LeBuick!

 

[Chris L.]

I agree with Chef Emeril... Pork fat rules! :thumbs:

 

[BobRyan]

It's a known fact that ethanol destroys vitamins your body needs--look at any book on nutrition and vitamins.

Here is a day when Linda and I agree on something she has researched.

Note to self - mark this day.

 

[Brother Bob]

Wine - and beer - do have nutritional value as well as medicinal value - red wine is particularly rich in flavenoids. It's good for the heart and soothes the mind (in moderation, of course).

Yea, almost ever wine-0 under the bridge will tell you that.

 

[BobRyan]

In Lev 11 God says that we should not eat rats, cats, dogs and bats.

In Isaiah 66 He says that those who eat rats will suffer the wrath of God in fire and brimstone.

I vote that we pay attention to the word of God - "the maker" says that rats cats dogs and bats "are not food" for us.

1 Corinthians, chapter 10

"27": If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake.

Is God saying that we SHOULD be eating the rats, cats, snakes and bats IF someone "sets them before us" to eat?

ARe they GOOD for you when "someone sets them before you"??

In Isaiah 66 God says he will "destroy" those who desecrate their body by eating such things. Did He mean "except if someone sets these mice before you to eat"??

 

[BobRyan]

I saw a coyote outside my window yesterday - he walked past the window just sniffing about for food - probably looking for "rats, cats, dogs, snakes and bats".

He looked kind of hungry to me.

Should WE be eating like him??

Lev 11 - God says "no".

Isaiah 66 - God says "no".

 

[drfuss]

Here is an opportunity to ask a question I have always wondered about.

If pigs were unclean and could not be eaten, why did the Jews raise pigs?

It would seem to me that would be one of the Pharisees prohibitions.

 

[Daisy]

Well, if there are holes in the pigs feet man put them there. Actually pigs have no bodily way to release heat...one of the reasons they will roll in mud.

I would've thought that pigs sweated. Because burn victims sometimes get pig skin temporarily I thought their skin was like ours - sweaty. Dogs and cats sweat through the soles of their feet, not through their skin.

Pigs are really a very clean animal, given half a chance. I don't know what the animals were back in Lev. I love people who refuse to move to the century in which we live, and ignore te New Testament to boot...

They had parasites that could be transmitted via their flesh if it wasn't cooked thoroughly. That is rare nowadays, especially for factory-raised hogs which are kept in santitary pens.
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[Daisy]

Yeah, almost ever wine-0 under the bridge will tell you that.

As will nutritionists.

 

[BobRyan]

Here is an opportunity to ask a question I have always wondered about.

If pigs were unclean and could not be eaten, why did the Jews raise pigs?

It would seem to me that would be one of the Pharisees prohibitions.

There is nothing condoning the idea of "raising pigs" in the bible for Jews.

But the issue is not "just" that they were unclean. After all - dolphins are unclean according to Lev 11 and their skin was used in the ceiling of the temple. Camels are unclean and so also horses and donkeys according to Lev 11 but it was not a problem to have them around. The problem with "raising pigs" was that they only had one purpose - and that was the one that was forbidden in God's Word in Lev 11.

When the demons were cast out of the men of the Gadara - the demons asked if they would be allowed to enter the swine (and of course - kill the herd). Jesus granted them that request. But that was not so "he could win" - he could ALREADY cast out demons!

 

[Brother Bob]

Originally Posted by Brother Bob
Yeah, almost ever wine-0 under the bridge will tell you that.
As will nutritionists.__________________
- Daisy

Compare that to living under a bridge and your broken home somewhere.

 

[rbell]

In Lev 11 God says that we should not eat rats, cats, dogs and bats.

In Isaiah 66 He says that those who eat rats will suffer the wrath of God in fire and brimstone.

I vote that we pay attention to the word of God - "the maker" says that rats cats dogs and bats "are not food" for us.



Is God saying that we SHOULD be eating the rats, cats, snakes and bats IF someone "sets them before us" to eat?

ARe they GOOD for you when "someone sets them before you"??

In Isaiah 66 God says he will "destroy" those who desecrate their body by eating such things. Did He mean "except if someone sets these mice before you to eat"??

Last time I checked, a pig wasn't a bat.

If you're going to observe the whole of the levitical code, you must also...

-not wear a poly/cotton or any blend shirt (Leviticus 19:19)
-destroy your oven if it has ever cooked an unclean animal (Leviticus 11:35)

Ya'll made me stop eating a hot dog to answer this thread. :tongue3:

 

[EdSutton]

Ok, Ed... I am orginally from North Carolina.

Since I have moved to New Hampshire I haven't had good BBQ.... How about you being a kind sir and sending me some of that good ole' BBQ! These people don't know what a Pig Pickin' is!

When I go to a BBQ place here in New England, they give me pork that has been cooked to a mush with no sauce, and then they serve it with the sauce on the side... I jokingly told one of my friends, one time when we had finished eating, that if the BBQ had been done right, they wouldn't sauce at the table.


I'll PM you my address... pack up a nice care package for a fellow brother... :thumbsup:


Jamie

I'm a-gonna have to go and mooch some myself. I don't do good 'Q, although I do great baked beans.

Ed

 

[EdSutton]

Yea, almost ever wine-0 under the bridge will tell you that.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Ed