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[Frogman]

capeeeeesh?

Is this to be taken literally, or figuratively

 

[Yelsew2]

Originally posted by Frogman:
capeeeeesh?

Is this to be taken literally, or figuratively

Just something I heard in a movie!

 

[Yelsew2]

Originally posted by BBNewton:
Yelsew,

Yeah, but you made your statements about interpreting Paul after I posted:

"I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature" --Romans 7

You apparently believe Paul made this statement because he was depressed and therefore shouldn't be taken too literally. Could you please explain to me how I am to take this figuratively?

Reaction to the tone of many posts sir, not just yours!

 

[KJV Warrior]

Originally posted by ILUVLIGHT:
Hi BBNewton;
This verse says;
Gen 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savor; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

Not all of man's thoughts are evil, only his "imagination". You know that part of the mind that we like to call creative. At the time alot of men IMHO were related to the nephlem or sometimes reffered to as the son's of God. Fallen angles, demons, or what ever you prefer to call them. God had just destroyed them off the face of the earth with a flood. This verse has absolutly nothing to do with Adam or his fall.

IMHO this took place more than a 1000 years after the death of Adam. No where is Adams punishment described as in the Calvinist position as becoming dead spiritualy. Even if it did, a spiritualy dead man is conscious and able to make a decision for Christ.

A scene of a spiritualy dead man who is conscious.

Luk 16:23 And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

Some would say well this is just a parable that Christ taught and can't be true. IMHO our Savior being the most intelligent person in the universe knew men would say this and I know that my Savior can't lie so it must be true. This richman is spiritually dead but yet is conscious of His surroundings is able to speak and able to reason.
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> If what you believed were true, and God left this matter in our hands, heaven would be devoid of people.

Not so, because the spiritualy dead can make decisions. They can have saving faith from hearing the word.
This below is the curse that Adam had to bear.

Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

Gen 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

Gen 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

There is nothing that restricts his understanding,his hearing,or seeing. That all comes from man not God.
If man Can't hear and understand the gospel. Why did Christ speak in parables?
May God Bless You;
Mike </font>[/QUOTE]

 

[KJV Warrior]

Just one point, The sons of God, were real men, NOT fallen angels. Because angels do not have reproductive organs. The angels are no where refered to as 'sons of God'. They are only God's servants.

 

[Frogman]

Originally posted by KJV Warrior:
Just one point, The sons of God, were real men, NOT fallen angels. Because angels do not have reproductive organs. The angels are no where refered to as 'sons of God'. They are only God's servants.

Amen

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