Is God Intrinsically Just?

[JonC]

Back to the OP:

The OP seems backwards to me because it takes a concept - justice - and asks if God is intrinsically just.

God IS our standard of justice. Rather than asking IF God is intrinsically just we should instead define righteousness based on God Himself by His revelation of Himself to us.

 

[kyredneck]

don't be surprised if others misunderstand what you are talking about

The insinuation is that you and Arthur King are one and the same.

 

[JonC]

The insinuation is that you and Arthur King are one and the same.

Serious? I suppose we could have some pretty stupid folks out here.


I assure you, @Arthur King and I are not the same person. He is much more articulate than I for one. And I don't think he lives in South Carolina for two.

A real man suspecting such would report it to the Staff so they could check it out. Where have all the John Wayne's gone?

 

[DaveXR650]

The insinuation is that you and Arthur King are one and the same.

Serious? How stupid can people be?

Basically @DaveXR650 was lying, then?

Seriously, Where'd that come from Ky? And then calling someone stupid and saying they are lying? What are you guys doing? There's medicine for that.
All I said was that I noticed a pattern of a repeated deliberate argument by Jon which consists of looking at very plain verses and then as his argument just dismissing 1000 years of theologians by saying it's clearly not what we think it says. While I think I understand your view we just have to disagree. And you have to admit that a lot of serious theologians agree with us. Your argument is like you would argue with your brother when you were 5. Yes you did, no you didn't....

And I noticed that in this particular subject, a couple of posters came on who don't seem to get involved otherwise. Anyone can go back and look at posts if they want to see if I'm right but I don't know why they would care. The fact is Jon, you can't refute the logic of what Martin was saying so you retreat into this repetitive but it's not in the Bible argument when everyone is looking at the scriptures and seeing it. And if that doesn't work you try to move into a new form of insult.

 

[JonC]

Seriously, Where'd that come from Ky? And then calling someone stupid and saying they are lying? What are you guys doing? There's medicine for that.
All I said was that I noticed a pattern of a repeated deliberate argument by Jon which consists of looking at very plain verses and then as his argument just dismissing 1000 years of theologians by saying it's clearly not what we think it says. While I think I understand your view we just have to disagree. And you have to admit that a lot of serious theologians agree with us. Your argument is like you would argue with your brother when you were 5. Yes you did, no you didn't....

And I noticed that in this particular subject, a couple of posters came on who don't seem to get involved otherwise. Anyone can go back and look at posts if they want to see if I'm right but I don't know why they would care. The fact is Jon, you can't refute the logic of what Martin was saying so you retreat into this repetitive but it's not in the Bible argument when everyone is looking at the scriptures and seeing it. And if that doesn't work you try to move into a new form of insult.

I am saying that IF @kyredneck is right then there are some pretty stupid folk here.

Again, you made the comment and left it out there for interpretation, refusing to clarify your meaning when asked.

When you do that people will try their best to figure out what your post meant.

That is why it is important to speak plainly.

 

[kyredneck]

Seriously, Where'd that come from Ky?

Who're you referring to here?:

I have noticed two different poster in past threads about this particular subject who came on out of nowhere and joined in with a whole different background of views, some of which I am beginning to recognize as to where they come from.

Their posts at the time, although difficult for me to sort out at first because they were not the usual Protestant type arguments and I have since and even still am finding out where they were coming from

 

[kyredneck]

I am saying that IF @kyredneck is right then there are some pretty stupid folk here.

If it's true you did a very good job with the subterfuge.

 

[JonC]

If it's true you did a very good job with the subterfuge.

Yes, I'm a virtual James Bond

Somebody else made a similar accusation (can't remember who) so the stupid people around here comment was more for those folk.

Obviously I (and no Staff member) has another membership. I actually check weekly and with new members. As far as I know, there are no double members here.

The last I can remember was Internet Theologian and Preacher4Truth (that was the same person).

 

[DaveXR650]

Who're you referring to here?:

You

If it's true you did a very good job with the subterfuge.

And if it isn't, you once again show your level of meaningful contribution to a thread.
@JonC. For what it's worth, I wish you well re Wednesday. The PM won't work.

 

[JonC]

You

And if it isn't, you once again show your level of meaningful contribution to a thread.
@JonC. For what it's worth, I wish you well re Wednesday. The PM won't work.

I left the PM. If I die Wednesday I want to die thinking happy thoughts....like fishing. .

Actually, I have to have a partial knee replacement. A gift from years in the Army and getting older. I'm asking for the Steve Austin (not Stone Cold but Six Million Dollar Man) knee. Just hope the other one can keep up.

 

[kyredneck]

Who're you referring to here?:

I have noticed two different poster in past threads about this particular subject who came on out of nowhere and joined in with a whole different background of views, some of which I am beginning to recognize as to where they come from.

Their posts at the time, although difficult for me to sort out at first because they were not the usual Protestant type arguments and I have since and even still am finding out where they were coming from

You

FYI, I've contributed nothing pertaining to PSA vs CV, I'm a mugwump when it comes to that. My input has been totally refuting the unscriptural notion that Satan had nothing to do with the crucifixion. Where/why/how you guys come up with that contradiction to basic fundamental Bible knowledge is beyond me.

 

[atpollard]

Ooh, we are over 100 posts!

Can we put this topic out of its misery soon?

 

[JonC]

Ooh, we are over 100 posts!

Can we put this topic out of its misery soon?

What?

Are you saying we are over 100 posts?

(Your turn)

 

[atpollard]

What?

Are you saying we are over 100 posts?

(Your turn)

It it not really I, who am saying it. To read each and every attack, accusation, counterattack and repeated non sequitur and COUNT each one would be a little slice of Hell right here on Earth. No, I am far too lazy [I meant busy] for that. Therefore, I merely glanced at the counter in the corner of each post and took it at its word.

 

[JonC]

It it not really I, who am saying it. To read each and every attack, accusation, counterattack and repeated non sequitur and COUNT each one would be a little slice of Hell right here on Earth. No, I am far too lazy [I meant busy] for that. Therefore, I merely glanced at the counter in the corner of each post and took it at its word.

What I understand you to be saying is that all the nonsense aside the counter is heading towards 130 posts.

Right?

 

[JonC]

Thread is closed. If anybody wants to open another to discuss the topic please feel free to do so.