Is God the author of Evil/Sin?

[Van]

Every once in a while I see a misrepresentation of scripture that needs to be addressed:

Here is a claim:
Does God choose people and cause them to approach Him?
Yes. Psalms 65:4.
The Bible is clear and the words are clear.

The implication is God selects a person, then draws them to Him using irresistible grace. However this assertion is totally false.
God chooses people and then God brings the person near to Him. This refers to God placing those whose faith He has credited as righteousness into Christ to dwell in His sanctuary.

Add this verse to the list of verses misrepresented to support false doctrine.

 

[Salty]

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[AustinC]

Every once in a while I see a misrepresentation of scripture that needs to be addressed:

Here is a claim:
Does God choose people and cause them to approach Him?
Yes. Psalms 65:4.
The Bible is clear and the words are clear.

The implication is God selects a person, then draws them to Him using irresistible grace. However this assertion is totally false.
God chooses people and then God brings the person near to Him. This refers to God placing those whose faith He has credited as righteousness into Christ to dwell in His sanctuary.

Add this verse to the list of verses misrepresented to support false doctrine.

It is disappointing if anyone creates a doctrine from one sentence, Van. Take your false contention about faith as a perfect example of you misunderstanding because you create a doctrine from a sentence rather than from context of a passage.

 

[Van]

It is disappointing if anyone creates a doctrine from one sentence, Van. Take your false contention about faith as a perfect example of you misunderstanding because you create a doctrine from a sentence rather than from context of a passage.

Once again the poster is addressed, using an ad hominem crutch, to support a bogus claim.
Calvinist constantly claim the "context" requires rewriting scripture to mirror bogus doctrine. It is a ploy that actually demonstrates the need to misrepresent that actual text.
And of course, the opponent is charged with what the Calvinist has done. Yet another bogus ploy.

On and on folks, on and on...

There is no support whatsoever in scripture for the "T." the "U," the "L' and the "I" of the TULIP.
If the "T" were true, then we would have no choice but to sin, making God the author of sin. It is a lock folks.

 

[Sai]

I REBUKE YOU and Say to you to get behind me. You've been placed here to provoke me and it's working, Lord forgive me. But I am done talking to you as well sir. I hope you truly know God despite what you think of Him, because if /I/ were God and did choose based on how I felt, I would throw you straight to heck in a hand basket for believing I was that unrighteous in my treatment of my created beings.

To choose to save some and not others? Based on????? NOTHING. That is not justice, that is not mercy, that is pure illogic.

It’s lonely at the top Miss E.


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[AustinC]

Once again the poster is addressed, using an ad hominem crutch, to support a bogus claim.
Calvinist constantly claim the "context" requires rewriting scripture to mirror bogus doctrine. It is a ploy that actually demonstrates the need to misrepresent that actual text.
And of course, the opponent is charged with what the Calvinist has done. Yet another bogus ploy.

On and on folks, on and on...

There is no support whatsoever in scripture for the "T." the "U," the "L' and the "I" of the TULIP.
If the "T" were true, then we would have no choice but to sin, making God the author of sin. It is a lock folks.

Leaning hard on the Calvin crutch once again, the poster still fails to provide more than a sentence to support his position about faith.

 

[AustinC]

This just proves God rains down good and bad on the wicked AND good. That's not anything to do with how Job was saved in the end. He believed in God, trusted in who He was. That saved Him.

He had an issue with why he was being punished while he was yet a righteous man.

Don't quote irrelevant scripture to me.

Job was saved before the book starts. It was because Job was grounded in the truth of God's Sovereignty that his faith remains strong through all the trials he endured. Job's biggest struggle was that it felt as if God, his dear companion all his life, had left Job. Job couldn't figure out why. He couldn't identify a sin that would grieve God and he knew God had graciously befriended him even though he didn't deserve it. He could handle the loss of family, property and health, but the sense of God's silence was heartbreaking. This is the discussion Job had with his friends. Why had God seemingly left him.

To think that Job wasn't saved until later is a grave misunderstanding of Job and the faith God had given him.

 

[Sai]

Job was saved before the book starts. It was because Job was grounded in the truth of God's Sovereignty that his faith remains strong through all the trials he endured. Job's biggest struggle was that it felt as if God, his dear companion all his life, had left Job. Job couldn't figure out why. He couldn't identify a sin that would grieve God and he knew God had graciously befriended him even though he didn't deserve it. He could handle the loss of family, property and health, but the sense of God's silence was heartbreaking. This is the discussion Job had with his friends. Why had God seemingly left him.

To think that Job wasn't saved until later is a grave misunderstanding of Job and the faith God had given him.

It is humbling to read Job’s response “I despise myself.”

 

[Salty]

time is incorrect - make that time as 2 am EDT 29 Jul / 11 PM (PDT) 28 Jul

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