Is Hyper Calvinism Regarded As being Non Biblical, As A False Gospel?

[kyredneck]

From my understanding the Coined "hyper calvinist" was by other calvinists. The split or difference was between "direct regeneration" and "gospel regeneration" A Particular Baptist by the name of Andrew Fuller who held to gospel regeneration made the remarks as I understand it about other Particular baptists that held to Direct Regeneration.

Brother Slone, thank you for your input. You're a man of few words (137 posts in 5 years). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that would be the beginning of the rift between the 'Gillites' and the 'Fullerites'.

An excellent essay that distinguishes between the 'effectual call' and 'the gospel call' and delves into the issue of 'immediate regeneration' vs 'gospel regeneration' is to be found here:

Born Again: The Doctrine of Effectual Calling by Elder Michael Gowens (pastor of the Church at Lexington)
http://www.sovgrace.net/index.php/t...-born-again-the-doctrine-of-effectual-calling

To break it down as some refer to it as external and internal call. Some believe the gospel is an external call, as I agree. But believe it is coupled with the internal call as I disagree. Not that God can't quicken a dead alien sinner during the external call (preaching) if it so pleased God but it would not be through the gospel directly.

Well said. God can regenerate simultaneously during the gospel call if He so desires, but more likely R.C. Sproul's assistant, V.A. Voorhis, hit the nail on the head here:

“When the RSB speaks in the notes of John 3 of "infants being born again," it is speaking of the work of quickening God does in them which inclines their will to Him. In Protestantism, regeneration always precedes faith and if God quickens them, the person will surely come . . .Often, regeneration and our subsequent faith happen apparently simultaneously but logically, regeneration must precede faith. An infant’s faith may not come until years after God has worked by His Holy Spirit to regenerate him or her. Two Biblical examples of infants who were born again are seen in Psalm 22:9-10 and Luke 1:15.”

Direct (internal)= Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling,
Not gospel = not according to our works,
Not Direct but why he does the Direct = but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began.
Legally accomplished = But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who abolished death,
external call = and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

AMEN!:

who saved us, and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before times eternal, but hath now been manifested by the appearing of our Saviour Christ Jesus, who abolished death, and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel, 2 Tim 1:9,10

The gospel does not impart life and immortality, it tells of it. It is Christ that died. It is Christ who has abolished death. It is Christ who is the life giving Spirit.

Theose adhering to the 'Fullerite Gospel' today (it seems to me) have reduced the gospel down to a 'salvific' formula whereby the free gift of eternal life is imparted. They've become no different than those Jews that Christ was speaking to in Jn 5:39. They believe that in the scriptures they have eternal life when it's Christ that has abolished death and has imparted life and immortality. It is Christ who is the life giving Spirit.

The Gospel did not bring life and immortality but brought it to light, to those God had already regenerated, To those it was brought to light through the gospel. (1Cor. 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God)It made manifested what God had already done. That is how we are saved by the knowledge of him. For instance the knowledge of Christ doesn't save us for heaven but it brings Salvation to those that are aready purposed, then regenerated in Christ, then to be brought unto salvation by the gospel which is the joy and peace that sets us free from our fears and so on. 1 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
I don't Champion John Calvin but I have no problems with TULIP, probably be called a calvinist and what ever else. But I am a pacifist and believe God puts in rulers according to his own judgement and thank him no matter what for my liberty in Christ Jesus. I beleive in immersion and therefore am not a calvinist whether Hyper or mellow. But this is to my understanding.....

Thank you again Brother for posting. I am Calvinist as far as TULIP goes, after that I am an Old Baptist.

 

[David Lamb]

...... the average Southern Baptist church, which is the predominate Baptist congregation.

It isn't here, nor, I imagine, in most of the 195 or so countries in the world. (As far as I know, there isn't a single baptist church in the UK that would describe itself as "Southern Baptist", though of course there are baptist churches in the south of the UK and in the north).

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

It isn't here, nor, I imagine, in most of the 195 or so countries in the world. (As far as I know, there isn't a single baptist church in the UK that would describe itself as "Southern Baptist", though of course there are baptist churches in the south of the UK and in the north).

Thats OK Dave....there are only a handful in the state of New Jersey, USA. Im going to check to see how many are in Canada

 

[Robert Snow]

It isn't here, nor, I imagine, in most of the 195 or so countries in the world. (As far as I know, there isn't a single baptist church in the UK that would describe itself as "Southern Baptist", though of course there are baptist churches in the south of the UK and in the north).

Sorry I didn't explain myself better. I was talking about Baptist churches in the United States.

"The Baptist denomination is the largest free church denomination in the world with 43 million members across the globe. In America, the Southern Baptist Convention is the largest American Baptist Organization with more than 16 million members in approximately 40 thousand churches."

http://christianity.about.com/od/baptistdenomination/p/baptistprofile.htm

 

[David Lamb]

Sorry I didn't explain myself better. I was talking about Baptist churches in the United States.

http://christianity.about.com/od/baptistdenomination/p/baptistprofile.htm

Please forgive my fascetiousness, Robert. I guessed you were talking about the US, but I over-reacted to your apparent assumption that we are all Americans. It was unnecessary, and I am sorry.