Is ISIS/ISIL Associated with Islam?

[RLBosley]

This is not a double standard! Jews and Christians will be doing it by not balancing the study of Holy Scriptures!

On the other hand, Muslims will do it by studying correctly what is stated in their book.

But of course liberal muslims will say that they are the one who do the balance study of their book. I believe, Mohammed would not agree with them if you study his life and practice.

And the moderate, mainstream Muslims will say that ISIS does it by not balancing their study of the Koran. Do you see the problem here?

For the record, I agree with you over all; I think Mohammed (from my limited reading about him) was a bloodthirsty vicious warlord who invented his religion in order to acquire power for himself. I think Jews and Christians are totally wrong to appeal to Joshua for support for war let alone terrorism.

I'm just trying to say that it seems that the consensus of modern muslims would say (and have said) that ISIS is not genuinely Islamic. Having only a limited knowledge about Islam or what the Koran says I'm content to give them the benefit of the doubt on this topic, particularly since parallels can be made in Christianity with out various unbiblical off shoot groups.

 

[righteousdude2]

Oh then visit the Mosques in the US and listent to what is being taught.

Does this mean you have been to a mosque or mosques and heard their messages? :smilewinkgrin:

 

[faithcontender]

And the moderate, mainstream Muslims will say that ISIS does it by not balancing their study of the Koran. Do you see the problem here?

For the record, I agree with you over all; I think Mohammed (from my limited reading about him) was a bloodthirsty vicious warlord who invented his religion in order to acquire power for himself. I think Jews and Christians are totally wrong to appeal to Joshua for support for war let alone terrorism.

You see moderate muslims, will not agree with what you think. For them, what Mohammed did, massacres and war, are justified as they are commanded in the name of their god! Some of those liberals might secretly agree that you are worthy to die for blasphemy!

They will also try to justify Mohammed's actions that those are done in self-defense therefore a just war or they called it Jihad! Some would even say that Mohammed did not do those atrocities for lack of knowledge.

I'm just trying to say that it seems that the consensus of modern muslims would say (and have said) that ISIS is not genuinely Islamic. Having only a limited knowledge about Islam or what the Koran says I'm content to give them the benefit of the doubt on this topic, particularly since parallels can be made in Christianity with out various unbiblical off shoot groups.

The question is who define what is true Islamic? Was it not Mohammed? So if I study the life and practice of Mohammed and compared to those which are being practiced by a group of muslims, I would conclude that radical muslims are closer in faith and practice!

 

[RLBosley]

You see moderate muslims, will not agree with what you think. For them, what Mohammed did, massacres and war, are justified as they are commanded in the name of their god! Some of those liberals might secretly agree that you are worthy to die for blasphemy!

They will also try to justify Mohammed's actions that those are done in self-defense therefore a just war or they called it Jihad! Some would even say that Mohammed did not do those atrocities for lack of knowledge.

OK. But that supports my point. Most of the moderate, mainstream muslims will say the above as you said, and criticize ISIS as not fully understanding Islam.

The question is who define what is true Islamic? Was it not Mohammed? So if I study the life and practice of Mohammed and compared to those which are being practiced by a group of muslims, I would conclude that radical muslims are closer in faith and practice!

Well I can see your point, and if you hold up Mohammed as the definition of true Islam and his life is reflected in the radicals (probably true. I don't know enough to say for certain.) then I would agree. But it seems to me that they more often appeal to the Koran in order to define Islam, not necessarily the actions or life of Mohammed.

 

[Judith]

Here is a good article about what is going on over there and in the world as well as what to expect.
http://gracethrufaith.com/end-times-prophecy/the-return-of-the-medes/