Is Isreal A Microcosm of the World and Atonement?

[Paleouss]

Greetings all. I place this question under the Cal & Armin debate because I am studying the implications of OT history as it relates to the Atonement. Specifically if a Un/Limited view of the atonement (sometimes said to be 4 point Calvinist) is shown in the OT.

So is the history of Isreal, as seen through the OT, a microcosm in picture story form of the world as a whole. For example, in the Moses story does Egypt represent the bondage of mankind to sin? Does the Red Sea and the destroying of the Egyptian army represent the blood of Christ washing sins away? Of course the giving of the commandments represent the law. After giving the Law, Moses tells the people to take sides (God or not). Those that do not confess God, are killed (Exo 32:26-27). Do those killed represent unbelievers receiving judgment under the law? (since it came right after giving of the Law).

So if you have gotten as far as to say that Isreal's history is a picture story microcosm of the world as a whole. I find it interesting that within the sacrificial system there are sacrifices for individual sins and sacrifices for all the people of Isreal.

Individual Atonement Sacrifice:
Sin Offering (Chatat): A sacrifice that is said to focus on the sin itself. Typically for Unintentional sins or mistakes.
Guilt or Trespass Offering (Asham): emphasized the need for restitution or payment for the harm caused.

While both were for atonement, the sin offering focused on the transgression itself, while the guilt offering emphasized the consequences, damage, and restitution caused by the sin.

All People Atonement Sacrifice (Yom Kippur) The offering performed once a year in the Old Testament was the atonement offering for the sins of all the people. This was a ritual where the high priest sacrificed a goat to atone for the sins of the Israelites as a whole.

Is the sacrifice for all the people regardless of their admission of guilt or not (like Yom Kippur) symbolism for the atonement work that Christ did for all mankind? Let's say this falls under the Cosmic Accomplishment for all mankind.

And also...

Is the sacrifice that is for Individual only. That is, the person must voluntarily come, must admit offense, must ask for forgiveness through a sacrifice. Is this the reflection or symbolism for the atoning work Christ does for those that believe? Only those that believe and come to God in faith having atonement of individual sins?


Keep seeking God's truth as if it were hidden treasure.

 

[kyredneck]

“'Tis ordinarily said, that the Jews were a typical people, the whole divine economy toward them is doctrinal and instructive to us, not immediately or literally, but by way of Anagogy” - Henry Hammond

Anagoge: 1. An elevation of mind to things celestial. 2. The spiritual meaning or application; esp. the application of the types and allegories of the Old Testament to subjects of the New.

 

[kyredneck]

does Egypt represent the bondage of mankind to sin?

Revelation Chapter 11

8​	And their dead bodies lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.

Galatians Chapter 4

24​	Which things contain an allegory: for these women are two covenants; one from mount Sinai, bearing children unto bondage, which is Hagar.
25​	Now this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia and answereth to the Jerusalem that now is: for she is in bondage with her children.

Does the Red Sea and the destroying of the Egyptian army represent the blood of Christ washing sins away?

Type:
13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and there shall no plague be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt. Ex 12

Antitype:
7 Purge out the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, even as ye are unleavened. For our passover also hath been sacrificed, even Christ: 1 Cor 5

 

[kyredneck]

Keep seeking God's truth as if it were hidden treasure.

Psalms Chapter 119

162​	I rejoice at thy word, As one that findeth great spoil.

 

[kyredneck]

After giving the Law, Moses tells the people to take sides (God or not).

Revelation Chapter 18

4​	And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come forth, my people, out of her, that ye have no fellowship with her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues:
5​	for her sins have reached even unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Acts Chapter 2

40​	And with many other words he testified, and exhorted them, saying, Save yourselves from this crooked generation.

Do those killed represent unbelievers receiving judgment under the law? (since it came right after giving of the Law).

Luke Chapter 13

1​	Now there were some present at that very season who told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
2​	And he answered and said unto them, Think ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they have suffered these things?
3​	I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all in like manner perish.
4​	Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and killed them, think ye that they were offenders above all the men that dwell in Jerusalem?
5​	I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Lu 13

Acts Chapter 3

23​	And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.

 

[kyredneck]

the Red Sea

"II. BAPTIZED UNTO MOSES (1 Corinthians 10:12)
This bit of history of the Hebrews and of the Exodus gives us a clue as to the meaning of what it means to be baptized "unto" someone or some thing. The Hebrews had been living and working "unto" their Egyptian taskmasters. They labored at making bricks with a view to pleasing these masters and thus doing the bidding of Pharaoh. The Red Sea put a difference in their view of the One to be heeded. It had separated, or marked the death of, themselves to Egypt, and the Egyptians to them. Now they had a new leader, Moses. Their being baptized "unto Moses," then meant that no longer were they to heed the voices of the masters in Egypt, but the voice of a new Master (God) whose spokesman was Moses.

III. BAPTIZED INTO JESUS CHRIST (Romans 6:3)
We are taught that we are baptized into (same word: "unto") Jesus Christ. It is not a matter of location or place, so that baptism puts us literally into Christ. This is no more true than that "baptized unto Moses" put the Hebrews into Moses. It means that baptism (like the Red Sea crossing) drew a line between former masters and the the present leader or master. Baptism declares that we have died to the world. Being dead to it we cannot heed the voice of its god (Satan) or its leaders (taskmasters). We have a new Master (Christ), and are baptized "unto" Him. With a view to heeding Him and no other, we declare (show) our death to the world and our resurrection (new life) unto God. He is our new Master, and we heed the voice of Him Who is our Head, Christ."

https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/why-did-jesus-and-his-disciples-baptize.82033/#post-1933423

 

[Paleouss]

III. BAPTIZED INTO JESUS CHRIST

kyredneck, thank you for the verses.

So Is the work of Christ on the cross like the distinction in the OT of the two types of atonement? (multiple purposes). That is an atonement for all people, Yom Kippur, along with an atonement for only some that come to confess individual sins, Chatat & Asham?

Peace to you brother

 

[Alan Dale Gross]

. Is this the reflection or symbolism for the atoning work Christ does for those that believe?

Only those that believe and come to God in faith having atonement of individual sins?

God does not deal with the non-elect world through 'Sufficient Grace',
but with Sufficient and Unadulterated Justice.

'Answer' given to your questions by way of the example of The Passover Lamb.

Long 'Answer', but all good meat to chew on.

"The second type we want to consider (after the New thread I started about Noah and the Ark https://www.baptistboard.com/thread...-sufficiency-shown-by-the-ark-of-noah.131578/) is that of the Passover Lamb of Exodus 12 . The pure, free, and infinite grace of God provided Israel with the passover lamb; and in this sacrificial lamb was their redemption and sufficiency.

"However, let it be clearly understood that the taking of the lamb from the flock, the slaying of it, and the roasting of it with fire was not sufficient to save Israel from the imminent judgment upon Egypt. The blood must be sprinkled upon the posts and lintel of the door of each Israelitish home. God emphatically declared that "When I see the blood, I will pass over you" (Exodus 12:13). This He said to Israel, and not to Egypt.

"It is the common concurrence that Israel in slavery to Egypt is a type of God’s elect in their pre-regenerate state, in which state they "walked according to the course of this world" (Ephesians 2:2), or like ancient Israel in bondage, walked according to the course of Egypt.

. "It is also uniformly held by students of the Scriptures, that Egypt is a type of this present evil world, a tyrant to whom man in his native state pays perfect allegiance. However, the powerful tyranny exercised by the world over man does not in any degree lessen his responsibility to denounce the world and come out of it.

"Christ said of all who have owned His Lordship over them, "They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world" (John 17:16). There is no spiritual commonality between the regenerate person and the world, and Divine sufficiency is certainly spiritual.

. "Redemptive sufficiency is a product of God’s love and was purchased by Christ’s sacrificial blood. In view of this glorious truth, I ask, Does God’s atoning sufficiency extend beyond His love? Are they not both co-extensive, retrospectively and prospectively, and have as their objects the same number of people, i.e., the elect of God?

"The Apostle Paul said, speaking of the antitype of Israel’s Passover lamb, "… For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us" (I Corinthians 5:7). To universalize the pronoun "us" in this text and make it apply in any sense to the reprobate world is to bedim the glory of the atonement.

"A sufficiency, the generality of which is such that it makes no distinction whatsoever between the people of God and those of the devil, is far too general for the Scriptures.

"God does not deal with the non-elect world through sufficient grace, but with sufficient and unadulterated justice, which provides no measure of Atoning sufficiency, but Eternal and merited suffering."

"God’s Counsel is Eternal and so are all His Decrees. Thus, the Decree of unpardonableness against the sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit is Eternal (Matthew 12:31-32). Does it not follow then, seeing that contradictory Decrees cannot emanate from God, that He would not Decree an Atoning Sufficiency for a sin that He Decreed never to forgive?

. "Pharaoh is an unmistakable type of Satan. He was bent on the elimination of Moses, a type of Christ, and on the annihilation of Israel, a type of God’s elect. His reprobation was glaringly manifest, and it was God’s eternal intention to drown him in the Red Sea (Romans 9:17); as it is God’s purpose to cast Satan, the antitype of Pharaoh, into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:10).

"In view of this, I ask, Did the atoning sufficiency of Israel’s Lamb extend unto Pharaoh?

"... The Lord doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel" (Exodus 11:7). This "difference" which distinguished Israel from Egypt was the Passover lamb. God did not give Egypt a Passover lamb, and consequently, no atonement sufficiency was provided for Egypt.

. "When atoning blood is denied apeople, they are left to themselves, and people left to themselves have never been objects of atonement sufficiency. Sufficiency is a vital part of God’s redemptive purpose for His people, and that purpose and sufficiency corresponds precisely with the number of names eternally registered in the Lamb’s book of life.

"Knowledge of the importance and purpose of the lamb was limited to Israel. Sprinkling of the blood of the lamb was limited to Israel. The promise of God, wherein He said, "When I see the blood I will pass over you," was limited to Israel. All redemptive or atoning benefits, including sufficiency, were limited toIsrael.

. "Conversely, the death curse of the firstborn was visited upon the household of Pharaoh and all the land of Egypt (Exodus 12:29). God’s infinite holiness and inflexible justice sees the non-elect as unatoned for sinners, and has provided for them smiting rather than sufficiency.

Con't

 

[Alan Dale Gross]

"God ever does with sin is smite it, and God’s atoning Lamb was not smitten with as much as one stripe for any beyond the limits of His shed blood.

"Christ, the antitype of Israel’s Passover lamb and antitype of Israel’s High Priest (Hebrews 9:7), having obtained eternal redemption for His people (Hebrews 9:11-12), entered into the tabernacle not made with hands.

. "In the heavenly tabernacle behind the veil, the blood of Christ was sprinkled and accepted to the full satisfaction of the Father for the sins of His covenant children (Hebrews 6:19, 10:24, 13:20). Therefore, the guilt of God’s elect is forever removed from heaven’s court docket and the sovereign verdict now reads, "Their sins and iniquities will I remember no more" (Hebrews 10:17).

"Peter, speaking of the glorious and exclusive offering of the blood of Christ within the veil of heaven’s tabernacle, says "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: grace unto you , and peace be multiplied" (I Peter 1:2).

. "Grace" and "peace" are blessings purchased for the elect by the shed and sprinkled blood of Christ, and every other purchase made by the vicarious sufferings of Christ shall be realized by the elect of God, and by them only; for His intercession on the cross was eternally and sovereignly restricted to them. "... the good shepherd giveth His life for the sheep" (John 10:11). In no sense did He die for the goats.

"Every blessing the redeemed of God shall ever experience in time and eternity was procured for them by the sacrificial blood of Christ. On the other hand, all the suffering and grief which the non-elect shall ever know, is owing to their infinite hatred of the blood of God’s Lamb (Hebrews 10:29), and not to an ill-supposed sufficiency.

"What is typically true of the lamb of Exodus 12 is equally true of all the God ordained animal sacrifices of the Old Testament, for they all were typical of the all-concluding sacrifice which God would make upon Calvary. The institution of animal sacrifices must reach its terminus, for the offended and infinite justice of God could never be satisfied with the blood of a beast as the means of expiation for the sins of utterly depraved men.

"Every sin is an infinite insult to the honor and holiness of God, and when the offense is infinite, so must the sacrifice be by which the sin is expiated. Hence, the incarnation and crucifixion of Christ. Christ "... appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself" (Hebrews 9:26).

"For by one offering He hath perfected forever them that are sanctified" (Hebrews 10:14). "Sanctified", i.e., set apart by the covenant of eternal redemption. The saints’ perfection is not of personal character, but of legal standing before the bar of God’s inflexible and just law.

. "The saints’ perfection has not to do with personal righteousness, but with imputed righteousness which was appropriated for them in the covenant of eternal and unconditional election, and merited not by them, but by the precious blood of Christ (I Peter 1:18-20).

"The justification or declaration of the saints’ legal righteousness is eternally anchored in the sovereign, holy, and active love of God. The love of God is infinite, but exclusive. It does not reach all mankind, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

. "Thus it is seen that Christ is God’s beloved Son, and singular channel of His blessings. All the blessings of the atonement come to the elect of God through Christ, the Mediator of the covenant of grace, and no good thing shall be withheld from them for whom it was purchased.

"Most surely, Atonement sufficiency is infinitely good, and no good thing wrought by the propitiation of Christ shall ever be voided. Therefore, Atonement sufficiency is limited to the elect, and they are made more than conquerors through Him that loved them (Romans 8:37).

. "All that was purchased by the Atoning blood of Christ will be infallibly applied to all those for whom the purchase was made. To say otherwise is to change God with vanity, and the universal sufficiency view of the Atonement gives credence to this baseless allegation. BEWARE!

NOTE: AGREED!

"The Passover Lamb of Exodus 12 is not a picture of universal sufficiency, but of particular protection. Atonement sufficiency equals deliverance from the curse. Christ did not die to provide a sufficiency that would go Eternally wanting for a people to protect, but His shed blood has provided a covering for the people of God, and Paul says: "Blessed are those whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered" (Romans 4:7). It irrevocably follows: all whose sins are not covered, Calvary’s Atonement has no value for them."