is it A MUST That Your pastor/Church Teach/Preach Calvinism?

[JesusFan]

Yes & I suppose we can argue it till we are both blue in the face but I believe that if every true Calvinist was to be interviewed, they would claim that the other position is not exclusively God centered but is distorted in the direction of self.....at least I hold to that. So your point is very valid "God still in control, just that he has chosen to allow us free will to a degree to decide final destiny! This way of believing supplies exactly what todays evangelicalism demands....a gospel that preserves a determinative role for personal choice.

we are NOT arguing here, as I DO hold to God having a divine election choice going on, that He grants to us eternal life in Christ by act of His will, just saying that those would be what an Arminian would tend to hold to!

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

we are NOT arguing here, as I DO hold to God having a divine election choice going on, that He grants to us eternal life in Christ by act of His will, just saying that those would be what an Arminian would tend to hold to!

No No I didnt mean to denote us ...rather the Calvinist / Non Calvinistic stances.

This will probably lead to another useless arguement as to who is right & who is wrong. I held the point in my youth ....well middle 30's till I was in my early 50's even while doing time in an apostate Presbyterian church. I was a 4 point Calvinist & couldnt understand Limited Atonement nor accept it. That took time, study & prayer. The real dropping off point that changed me was the HS for without his intervention, I would never have been saved. Then I was changed.

Nobody here (I hope) questions anyones salvation, but doctrines of grace now fits in my head cause I experienced it 1st hand.....so thats how I roll.:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Skandelon]

Now from everything Ive read, at every point in his theology, Calvin insisted that salvation is a gift of divine grace rather than an achievement of human effort.

Interestingly enough, the same could be said of Jacobus Arminias, and myself for that matter.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Interestingly enough, the same could be said of Jacobus Arminias, and myself for that matter.

Yes I understand that from reading about him as well

 

[convicted1]

Willis, we are both Christians & both have the right to claim "blood bought child of the King" though that would be difficult to type. Note that while I dont like the name "Calvinist" since I believe in Credo Baptism, its easier to type.

Agreed!! I guess I dislike "no name theology" just as much as you do "Calvinist".

Any Christian church should be professing Christ so you are welcome, after all, its His church ..... My favorite Scripture is 1 John 5: 11 & 12....And this is the testimony" God has given us eternal life, and this life is in the Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

Agreed again!! I would welcome any CHRISTian at my home church, Little Martha!! One of the best meetings I was in was back in 2007. I went to an ORB assoc.(Sovereign Grace Assoc. of ORBs) that is at least a 4 pointers, and quite possibly 5 pointers. I really enjoyed myself that day!! They had some very blessed preachers that day!! I can worship with ANYONE who has Jesus as their Lord and Saviour!!

Truly, we are both Brothers. I just don't like squaring off in the areas that have caused petty discention

Agreed!! We are not saved by our theologies, but by the Blood of Jesus Christ!! Now, that's worth shoutin' 'bout!! Praise His sweet name!!

i am I AM's!!

Willis

 

[Osage Bluestem]

I would bet you dont take the abuse on Puritan that you do on here.....BTW, how is the Colonel? Give him a Semper Fi for me. He didnt take any Helicopter missions lately, did he? LOL!

I'm not reformed enough for the Puritan Board so they deactivated my account today.

I don't hold to covenant theology. I hold to remnant theology and I'm dispensational and premillenial. Also I'm too evangelical and they frown on that there.

In a thread about eschatology a friend advised me to quit posting because the mods were upset that my views weren't reformed. I was communicating that I was taking his advice and posted. "I'm done."

I got banned for that. The PM said the reason for my ban was that "You're done."

So, I no longer support the Puritan Board. I believe differently than they do and I don't belong there.

 

[JesusFan]

I'm not reformed enough for the Puritan Board so they deactivated my account today.

I don't hold to covenant theology. I hold to remnant theology and I'm dispensational and premillenial. Also I'm too evangelical and they frown on that there.

In a thread about eschatology a friend advised me to quit posting because the mods were upset that my views weren't reformed. I was communicating that I was taking his advice and posted. "I'm done."

I got banned for that. The PM said the reason for my ban was that "You're done."

So, I no longer support the Puritan Board. I believe differently than they do and I don't belong there.

Think that they would view us here on the BB as being "too liberal" as we have Cals/Arms/Dispy/Convenent/Gifts cease/operate/ KJV/other versions etc

Think they JUST want those who hokld to the "reformed line"

 

[Havensdad]

I'm not reformed enough for the Puritan Board so they deactivated my account today.

I don't hold to covenant theology. I hold to remnant theology and I'm dispensational and premillenial. Also I'm too evangelical and they frown on that there.

In a thread about eschatology a friend advised me to quit posting because the mods were upset that my views weren't reformed. I was communicating that I was taking his advice and posted. "I'm done."

I got banned for that. The PM said the reason for my ban was that "You're done."

So, I no longer support the Puritan Board. I believe differently than they do and I don't belong there.

Don't feel bad. I DO hold to Covenant theology, I am fully reformed and confessional, and still got a warning today. Most of the folks on Puritan board are good folks. There are a few (as there are anywhere) who are overly zealous. But even these I think are good folks. They just have their friends, and like all of us, tend to see their friends point of view instead of ours. Its not a perfect world (but it will be one day!)

 

[Havensdad]

Think that they would view us here on the BB as being "too liberal" as we have Cals/Arms/Dispy/Convenent/Gifts cease/operate/ KJV/other versions etc

Think they JUST want those who hokld to the "reformed line"

Brother,

I think it is no different than us having a special forum here for "Baptists." On Puritan Board, the important thing is that you are reformed and confessional. On this forum, the important thing is that you are Baptist. If someone started advocating paedobaptism in the "Baptist Only" area, I imagine they would get the same treatment as Osage did on Puritan Board.

Here, we do not accept Presbyterians, Non-Denom, or Lutherans...but we WILL accept Arminian, Calvinist, dispys, covenant, etc.

On PB, they DO accept Presbys, Baptist, Non-Denom, and Lutherans...but you have to be reformed. No difference, really. Just a different set of guidelines.