No, not in the least!!! ... Why would you even make such comparisons??? There is absolutely no reason to make those kind of assertions.
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Is It Biblical for Churches to Take Government Benefits?
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poncho
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I already saw that and found it completely laughable and desperate.
Why do you need sources to laugh at bad logic and bad comparison? I could draw a lot of comparisons to various things. That doesn't mean they are worthy of attention. Bad thinking and fear mongering deserves to be ignored or deleted, not responded to in depth.
poncho
Well-Known Member
Thats fair enough Pastor Larry. Thank you for your honesty. I can understand how you and others might think that it may be that my thinking process is somewhat confused and maybe even paranoid and dellusional.
I suspect that even some on this board may think of me as being annoying by my constantly harping on the subjects that I have chosen. If this is the case then you all have my heartfelt apologies. Now, let me be honest and tell you that as of late I myself have grown tired of trying to defend my position on certain issues.
When I go back and read my postings I find some of them to be as you say laughable, and some I am shocked that I would even bring up such a thing on a Christian board. I wrote what I wrote and can't take it back it now. I hope to be forgiven if I have shocked or riled anyone by my words.
I have been giving it a lot of thought as to why I would think the way I do (going against conventional wisdom) the one thing that sticks in my mind is this theory I have. I wrestle with this everday. Maybe it is all a great waste of time and energy but, never the less I have a theory. How I arrived at my conclusions and formed my belief in these things is fairly clear in my mind, such as it is.
I know how I have arrived at my conclusions, and I feel strongly about them, unfortunately my lack of education and skill in the use of the english language leave me unable to express myself well enough to articulate them in a few short posts. I fear it would take a long time as my conclusions are based on things from many topics in many areas from before the begining of creation.
So, I have a problem. On the one hand I would very much like a chance to try and explain my theory in detail. On the other hand I do not think it would be to the benefit of anyone on this board for me to go on harping in the way that I have. That would just be rude on my part.
Though it may be selfish on my part to ask this, I wonder if the folks on this board would be willing to allow me one chance to present my theory in something like the way a great mystery is solved. By asking questions and considering the answers and evidence that are presented.
All would be welcome to submit any thoughts, evidence, conclusions or questions. All I would ask is this...to let me be the first to ask a series of questions to get the ball rolling as I have more questions than answers to share.
I realize that what I am asking could take a very long time and cover many topics, but, maybe it would be fun and we could learn about each other and become closer as Christians as a result.
So, what do say...may I have this one Chance?
I suspect that even some on this board may think of me as being annoying by my constantly harping on the subjects that I have chosen. If this is the case then you all have my heartfelt apologies. Now, let me be honest and tell you that as of late I myself have grown tired of trying to defend my position on certain issues.
When I go back and read my postings I find some of them to be as you say laughable, and some I am shocked that I would even bring up such a thing on a Christian board. I wrote what I wrote and can't take it back it now. I hope to be forgiven if I have shocked or riled anyone by my words.
I have been giving it a lot of thought as to why I would think the way I do (going against conventional wisdom) the one thing that sticks in my mind is this theory I have. I wrestle with this everday. Maybe it is all a great waste of time and energy but, never the less I have a theory. How I arrived at my conclusions and formed my belief in these things is fairly clear in my mind, such as it is.
I know how I have arrived at my conclusions, and I feel strongly about them, unfortunately my lack of education and skill in the use of the english language leave me unable to express myself well enough to articulate them in a few short posts. I fear it would take a long time as my conclusions are based on things from many topics in many areas from before the begining of creation.
So, I have a problem. On the one hand I would very much like a chance to try and explain my theory in detail. On the other hand I do not think it would be to the benefit of anyone on this board for me to go on harping in the way that I have. That would just be rude on my part.
Though it may be selfish on my part to ask this, I wonder if the folks on this board would be willing to allow me one chance to present my theory in something like the way a great mystery is solved. By asking questions and considering the answers and evidence that are presented.
All would be welcome to submit any thoughts, evidence, conclusions or questions. All I would ask is this...to let me be the first to ask a series of questions to get the ball rolling as I have more questions than answers to share.
I realize that what I am asking could take a very long time and cover many topics, but, maybe it would be fun and we could learn about each other and become closer as Christians as a result.
So, what do say...may I have this one Chance?
Ed Edwards
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In case time is short, can you start with
the key questions?
Here is mine:
What is the nature of the people who have
their hands on the buttons that can destroy
all like on the face of the planet in one hour
(60-minute clock hour)?
Let me tell you:
25% are American Christians
25% are Russian athiests who have this
life and this life only to look forward to
25% are Chineese athiestswho have this
life and this life only to look forward to
25% i don't really know???
Anyway, at least the majority now have
nothing, nothing to live for except this life
so they don't have a death wish.
the key questions?
Here is mine:
What is the nature of the people who have
their hands on the buttons that can destroy
all like on the face of the planet in one hour
(60-minute clock hour)?
Let me tell you:
25% are American Christians
25% are Russian athiests who have this
life and this life only to look forward to
25% are Chineese athiestswho have this
life and this life only to look forward to
25% i don't really know???
Anyway, at least the majority now have
nothing, nothing to live for except this life
so they don't have a death wish.
Ed Edwards
<img src=/Ed.gif>
Sounds Good, leave this topic what it is.
Jason Gastrich
New Member
This is an interesting thread. I read most of the posts and I think Pastor Larry has some good points.
Almost a year ago, I applied for and received the 501(c)(3) designation for my ministry - Jesus Christ Saves Ministries. It isn't a church, though.
One reason for getting the non-profit status that hasn't been mentioned is grants. Virtually all foundations that give money to Christian organizations require them to have the 501(c)(3) status.
Incidentally, I've never experienced any governmental control over my ministry except for one area. I understand that JCSM cannot endorse or financially support political candidates. If I want to endorse or support them as a personal endeavor, then I may. However, my ministry isn't supposed to.
Have you heard this stipulation (Pastor Larry or anyone)?
God bless,
Jason
Almost a year ago, I applied for and received the 501(c)(3) designation for my ministry - Jesus Christ Saves Ministries. It isn't a church, though.
One reason for getting the non-profit status that hasn't been mentioned is grants. Virtually all foundations that give money to Christian organizations require them to have the 501(c)(3) status.
Incidentally, I've never experienced any governmental control over my ministry except for one area. I understand that JCSM cannot endorse or financially support political candidates. If I want to endorse or support them as a personal endeavor, then I may. However, my ministry isn't supposed to.
Have you heard this stipulation (Pastor Larry or anyone)?
God bless,
Jason