Is it wrong to wear a crucifix

[Davyboy]

Isn't it weird that the people that say crucifixes are bad and that you can’t have them in your home or in the church because they are graven images. But as soon as the Christmas season hits these same people love displaying the statues of the manger scene (graven images) both in their homes and churches. Plus why would you depict the manger scene, he isn't a baby anymore and he isn't in a manger.

 

[tyndale1946]

Isn't it weird that the people that say crucifixes are bad and that you can’t have them in your home or in the church because they are graven images. But as soon as the Christmas season hits these same people love displaying the manger scenes (graven images) both in their homes and churches. Plus why would you depict the manger scene, he isn't a baby anymore.

OUCH!... That hurt!... A thought just occurred to me, how many have crosses on their Bibles?... Just asking... Brother Glen

 

[Reformed]

Isn't it weird that the people that say crucifixes are bad and that you can’t have them in your home or in the church because they are graven images. But as soon as the Christmas season hits these same people love displaying the statues of the manger scene (graven images) both in their homes and churches. Plus why would you depict the manger scene, he isn't a baby anymore and he isn't in a manger.

Yes. That is weird. Of course, there are those of us who do not even allow images of Jesus in our home at Christmas.

 

[Jerome]

Yet this was posted for Christmas 2018 by the Twitter of ARBCA Missions (Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America):

 

[Davyboy]

Well this Reformed Church not only had one but 600 different nativity sets. And well over half belong to members of the congregation. So that means they have a graven image at home and church.

 

[Dave G]

Isn't it weird that the people that say crucifixes are bad and that you can’t have them in your home or in the church because they are graven images. But as soon as the Christmas season hits these same people love displaying the statues of the manger scene (graven images) both in their homes and churches. Plus why would you depict the manger scene, he isn't a baby anymore and he isn't in a manger.

I don't celebrate Christ-Mass.

 

[Reformed]

Well this Reformed Church not only had one but 600 different nativity sets. And well over half belong to members of the congregation. So that means they have a graven image at home and church.

Do you know anything about the Christian Reformed Church? The Dutch CRC denomination has had a noticeable slide into liberalism. They have more problems than just 2nd Commandment violations. Do you have any more mud you care to sling, as it seems that is the only reason you are here?

 

[Salty]

I don't celebrate Christ-Mass.

But do you celebrate Christmas?

 

[Dave G]

But do you celebrate Christmas?

No.

Should I?
I'm not aware of any mandate by the Lord to observe anything except water baptism and the Lord's Supper as events.

 

[HankD]

No.

Should I?
I'm not aware of any mandate by the Lord to observe anything except water baptism and the Lord's Supper as events.

Well yes perhaps you should because according to Rome theology the mass is a sacrifice.

With this qualification - it happened ONCE 2000 or so years ago at Calvary by the Lord Jesus Christ never to be repeated.

 

[Dave G]

Well yes perhaps you should because according to Rome theology the mass is a sacrifice.

With this qualification - it happened ONCE 2000 or so years ago at Calvary by the Lord Jesus Christ never to be repeated.

I'll pass, Hank.
I see no reason to celebrate something that the unsaved spend boatloads of money giving each other gifts for, and that cannot be proven to coincide with Christ's birth.
It can be proven to coincide with the ancient Roman Feast of Saturnalia and the Germanic festival of Yule, though.

I don't celebrate His sacrifice...I remember His broken body and shed blood.

 

[HankD]

I'll pass, Hank.
I see no reason to celebrate something that the unsaved spend boatloads of money giving each other gifts for, and that cannot be proven to coincide with Christ's birth.
It can be proven to coincide with the ancient Roman Feast of Saturnalia and the Germanic festival of Yule, though.

I don't celebrate His sacrifice...I remember His broken body and shed blood.

Uhm, I didn't use the word "celebrate" or mention any of those false gods you seem to know so much about.

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

 

[Davyboy]

If you think about this claim, it’s saying do not use any kind of art. (Forms of art - paintings, sculptures, movies and music.) So you can’t watch movies or cartoons with Jesus portrayed in it. Music is off limits because while a song is playing you might want to kneel while singing or put your hands in the air. Some might say that you are worshipping the music. You already know that sculptures and painting are bad because Catholics have them.

 

[Davyboy]

Just another point to add from my last post, I read a while back that early Calvinists smashed crucifixes, statues of Jesus, stained glass, and organs.

 

[Salty]

From a friend of mine:

It is cheap to wear Scripture or a Cross.

It is costly to live them.

 

[Walter]

From a friend of mine:

It is cheap to wear Scripture or a Cross.

It is costly to live them.

The 120 Christians slaughtered in Nigeria over the past three weeks are proof of this.

 

[Jerome]

Just another point to add from my last post, I read a while back that early Calvinists smashed crucifixes, statues of Jesus, stained glass, and organs.

William Whittingham, one of the translators of the Genva Bible, when he returned to England had gravestones defaced and used them for base purposes:

The County of Durham: Its Castles, Churches and Manorhouses

...toumbes, which stones Deane Whittingham did cause to be pulled downe and taken away, and dyd breake and deface all such stones as had any pictures....he caried them all awaie, and did occupie theme to his owne use

Mrs. Whittingham, after the death of her husband, toke...dyverse grave-stones of blew marble, and....when she buylded her house in the Baley, which stones some of theme ar laid in the threshold of the dores, and two great ones lyeth without the doures, over against the walle before her front stead

What a thrifty Huguenot, she, recycling others' too fancy gravestones as her home's thresholds, to be trodden underfoot!

 

[Jerome]

I read a while back that early Calvinists smashed crucifixes, statues of Jesus, stained glass, and organs.

And if that weren't disgusting enough, they'd smear excrement on them, etc.:

In Britain:

"St. Mary's church at Oxford had a baroque portal with a Virgen whose head was shot off. All the medieval figures in Ely Cathedral were beheaded. At Cheapside the most beautiful cross in London was pulled down. At Lichfield Cathedral they poured tar over the altar. Dugdale says soldiers polluted the choir with excrement."

In France:

"Iconoclasm was also a fundamental feature of the French Calvinist Reformation....Crucifixes were daubed with excrement and shrines desecrated."

In the Netherlands:

"they urinated on the chalices...defecated in the vestments. That which had been most holy was converted for the most base purposes: wooden images provided firewood, an altar became a pig's trough"

 

[Salty]

But do you celebrate Christmas?

No.

Should I?
I'm not aware of any mandate by the Lord to observe anything except water baptism and the Lord's Supper as events.

Serious questions:
1) Do you celebrate your Birthday, the 4th of July, your anniversary, ect?

2) What do you do on Christmas Day - do you go to work, or what?

 

[Adonia]

It can be proven to coincide with the ancient Roman Feast of Saturnalia and the Germanic festival of Yule, though.

What better way to get people to start thinking about the Lord than to take over their holidays/festivals? Ingenious!