Is McCain a conservative?

[saturneptune]

I never realized until a few weeks ago how hated McCain is in conservative circles. People such as Limbaugh, Coulter, Beck, Dobson, and Hannity say they would vote for the Democrat before McCain, or not vote. The reasoning is that if McCain is elected, the Republicans will take the fall for the failed policies, and might as well get rid of the Democrats in one term.

I put no stock in entertainer's opinions. What do you think? Is McCain so bad you would vote for the Democrat? Or not vote? Or a third party?

It seems the Republicans have dug themselves into a hole over the last eight years, and have no idea how to get out. Its what happens when one compromises principles.

 

[PastorSBC1303]

I The reasoning is that if McCain is elected, the Republicans will take the fall for the failed policies, and might as well get rid of the Democrats in one term.

IMO the problem with this idea is the possiblity of Supreme Court nominations during the next term. Are we willing to hand that over to the Democrats too? I would much rather have McCain picking them than Obama or Hillary.

Is McCain so bad you would vote for the Democrat?

No.

 

[Ps104_33]

IMO the problem with this idea is the possiblity of Supreme Court nominations during the next term. Are we willing to hand that over to the Democrats too? I would much rather have McCain picking them than Obama or Hillary.

What makes you think that McCain would choose conservative judges? His reputation to please the left tells me that he may do otherwise.

 

[PastorSBC1303]

He has said that he would appoint conservative judges.

Whereas, we know without a doubt Obama and Hillary would appoint liberal judges.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

I never realized until a few weeks ago how hated McCain is in conservative circles. People such as Limbaugh, Coulter, Beck, Dobson, and Hannity say they would vote for the Democrat before McCain, or not vote. The reasoning is that if McCain is elected, the Republicans will take the fall for the failed policies, and might as well get rid of the Democrats in one term.

Rush Limbaugh was adamant that he is neutral during the primaries. We all know that what he says is more important than what he does.

McCain is a conservative. Again, he is a Neocon. While he may not be an ultraconservative, he is conservative nonetheless. To deny this is to be intellectually dishonest.

http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm

Regards, hope this reply finds you and yours well,
BiR

 

[tinytim]

He has said that he would appoint conservative judges.

Whereas, we know without a doubt Obama and Hillary would appoint liberal judges.

I agree... but I am nervous about it... I will be crossing my fingers if he is elected that he will stick by what he says instead of giving into peer pressure from the left.

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

I agree... but I am nervous about it... I will be crossing my fingers if he is elected that he will stick by what he says instead of giving into peer pressure from the left.

Tinytim, you have always given me the impression that abortion is the single-most important issue facing this country.

From the link I provided (http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm):

John McCain:
Supports repealing Roe v. Wade. (May 2007)
Voted YES on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)
Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
Voted YES on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)
Voted YES on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
Expand embryonic stem cell research. (Jun 2004)
Rated 75% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)
[emphasis in bold is mine]

What concerns do you have?

Hope this finds you well,
BiR

 

[Andy T.]

He has said that he would appoint conservative judges.

I've heard some speculate that he would not appoint strict constructionist judges, because he doesn't want his unconstitutional McCain-Feingold law overturned.

On another note, I think McCain's VP pick is very important. First, he needs to pick a conservative, or at least someone more conservative than himself. Second, he needs to pick someone who will be his successor, because with McCain's age, he is likely to be a one-term President, so his Veep needs to be someone younger who can run well in 4 years. This was the big mistake Bush made in picking Cheney.

 

[Ivon Denosovich]

I'm not sure what a conservative is, but someone who's pro-life and supports the war isn't a liberal is he?

 

[tinytim]

Tinytim, you have always given me the impression that abortion is the single-most important issue facing this country.

From the link I provided (http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm):


What concerns do you have?

Hope this finds you well,
BiR

I do think it is the most important issue.. Well, actually family values including pro life, and pro marriage..
But, and this may surprise you, I am not a one issue voter...

That issue has to be there, the candidate has to be prolife.. but that is not the only issue. He seems to compromise with the left too much for me on other issues.

He also seems too much like Bush. Which right now I am not happy with.. we need out of Iraq. At least a plan to get out.

I don't see that coming about with him.


I hope i am wrong...

See, I am sensible sometimes!!! :laugh:

 

[Ivon Denosovich]

TinyTim, how is McCain any different than Huckabee, which IIRC, you supported/defended?

 

[PastorSBC1303]

On another note, I think McCain's VP pick is very important. First, he needs to pick a conservative, or at least someone more conservative than himself. Second, he needs to pick someone who will be his successor, because with McCain's age, he is likely to be a one-term President, so his Veep needs to be someone younger who can run well in 4 years. This was the big mistake Bush made in picking Cheney.

I agree completely. And this is why I think he will pick Huckabee.

 

[Andy T.]

I agree completely. And this is why I think he will pick Huckabee.

I suppose Huck fits the good successor role, but some would say that he is only marginally more conservative than McCain.

After seeing how poorly Romney did in the southern states, I think my prediction of a McCain-Romney ticket is now defunct. I can't see McCain picking him. Huckabee seems like the logical pick. I still wouldn't mind Jeb Bush, but I don't think the country is ready for another Bushie just yet.

Although, I wouldn't yet count out Romney for the nomination, though it appears he's down in the bottom of the 9th facing Lee Smith...urrr....I mean, Mariano Rivera. :laugh:

 

[PastorSBC1303]

Although, I wouldn't yet count out Romney for the nomination, though it appears he's down in the bottom of the 9th facing Lee Smith...urrr....I mean, Mariano Rivera. :laugh:

:laugh:

The other name I have heard a lot is Crist from Florida.

 

[tinytim]

TinyTim, how is McCain any different than Huckabee, which IIRC, you supported/defended?

Huckabee seems to be more conservative. More uncorrupted by DC politics.

 

[Ivon Denosovich]

Huckabee seems to be more conservative. More uncorrupted by DC politics.

Oh. I thought you were talking about issues. FWIW, I like McCain personally what with his being a war hero and all. And he may be the only (?) elected Republican who supports this war that actually has kids fighting in it.

 

[carpro]

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I put no stock in entertainer's opinions. What do you think? Is McCain so bad you would vote for the Democrat? Or not vote? Or a third party?

McCain would have been one of my last choices of the Republican candidates.

That being said, he is ten times better than Hillary or Obama either one.

He may , on occasion, sell out conservatives and cosey up to a liberal cause, but he won't sell the entire country down the river like the democrats very well might.

 

[dcorbett]

I agree...McCain is the lesser of the evils.

I am a Huckabee fan, but I don't see him winning the nomination. Too many people are jumping on the McCain bandwagon right now. How easily they forget he was considered as a Kerry running mate at one time....sheesh!

And we will end up with a Democrat in the White House because the Democrats are passionate and on fire....and we Republicans are complacent and burnt out from fighting all the battles the past 2 years.
Only if we join together and FIGHT will we prevent the liberals from taking back the White House and folks, when that happens, kiss tax free goodbye for your churches and watch ALL of God and Jesus stripped out of this country....

Debbie Mc

 

[StefanM]

Only if we join together and FIGHT will we prevent the liberals from taking back the White House and folks, when that happens, kiss tax free goodbye for your churches and watch ALL of God and Jesus stripped out of this country....

Debbie Mc

Wait..you almost forgot the part about sacrificing goats on the White House lawn.

This kind of exaggeration is simply ridiculous.

 

[just-want-peace]

He may , on occasion, sell out conservatives and cosey up to a liberal cause, but he won't sell the entire country down the river like the democrats very well might.

I wish I shared your confidence!

Only if we join together and FIGHT will we prevent the liberals from taking back the White House and folks, when that happens, kiss tax free goodbye for your churches and watch ALL of God and Jesus stripped out of this country....

And a great big AMEN to this!

Unfortunately, I ain't too sure that a liberal lite will be a whole lot better.