Is Seventh-Day Adventism a Cult?

[Yeshua1]

What we do know is that her source was not God. We know that because when we "test the spirits", she fails where she deviates from scripture.

Yes, for the Gospel that she taught really deviated from the biblical one!

 

[thatbrian]

Yes, for the Gospel that she taught really deviated from the biblical one!

Ellen White was so distraught that Christ did not return, when her family was part of the Millerite's false prediction in 1843/44, that she invented these visions as a way to make the false predictions seem true, and the rock to her head didn't help.

The fact that 25 million people have believed this stuff still has me scratching my head.

 

[BobRyan]

Ellen White was so distraught that Christ did not return, when her family was part of the Millerite's false prediction in 1843/44,

1. Factless accusations are no more compelling today than they were in the dark ages. You knew that right?
2. The Millerites discovered the connection with the sanctuary in heaven teaching the same day after the Oct 22, 1844 and Ellen White (who was in fact the teenage Ellen Harmon at that time) was not a prophet and had nothing to do with that discovery. Several months later the teen Ellen Harmon had a vision about saints going to heaven but that vision said nothing about the sanctuary doctrine explaining the disappointment.

Early Writings, by Ellen G. White. My First Vision

That vision described the second coming but did not give any explanation at all about the Oct 22,1888 prediction or about the heavenly sanctuary where Christ is now ministering as our high priest. You simply "made that up". Her first vision as a teen was given months after the October 22 event but the explanation for that event first came from Hiram Edson on October 23, 1844 not from Ellen Harmon.

Edson spent October 22, 1844 with friends waiting for the event, and was heart-broken when Jesus did not return as expected. He later wrote,

"Our fondest hopes and expectations were blasted, and such a spirit of weeping came over us as I never experienced before. It seemed that the loss of all earthly friends could have been no comparison. We wept, and wept, till the day dawn."[2]
As the hours passed, Edson reflected on the events of the previous year. He believed he had been given the power to heal the sick, and he had seen many hundreds of friends turn to Jesus as a result of his preaching. His confidence soon returned, and he suggested that he and some friends visit some nearby Adventists (or Millerites) to encourage them. On the morning of October 23, 1844 they walked through Edson's cornfield to avoid the mocking jeers of the neighbors who had refused to believe the Advent message.[3] It was in this cornfield that Edson claimed to have seen a vision. In this vision, Edson came to understand that "the cleansing of the sanctuary" meant that Jesus was moving from the Holy Place to the Most Holy Place in the heavenly sanctuary, and not to the Second Coming of Jesus to earth:

"We started, and while passing through a large field I was stopped about midway of the field. Heaven seemed opened to my view, and I saw distinctly and clearly that instead of our High Priest coming out of the Most Holy of the heavenly sanctuary to come to this earth on the tenth day of the seventh month, at the end of the 2300 days, He for the first time entered on that day the second apartment of that sanctuary; and that He had a work to perform in the Most Holy Place before coming to the earth."[4]
Edson shared what he believed he saw with many of the local Adventists who were greatly encouraged by his account. As a result, Edson began studying the Bible with two of the other believers in the area, O. R. L. Crosier and Franklin B. Hahn, who published their findings in a paper called the Day-Dawn. This paper explored the biblical parable of the Ten Virgins,
from : Hiram Edson - Wikipedia

Posting false stories and false accusations as you do - this is just 'another in a large pile of examples' of your claims not holding water.

I pray that the point comes in your posts where ranting has less value than telling the truth

 

[Yeshua1]

1. Factless accusations are no more compelling today than they were in the dark ages. You knew that right?
2. The Millerites discovered the connection with the sanctuary in heaven teaching the same day after the Oct 22, 1844 and Ellen White (who was in fact the teenage Ellen Harmon at that time) was not a prophet and had nothing to do with that discovery. Several months later the teen Ellen Harmon had a vision about saints going to heaven but that vision said nothing about the sanctuary doctrine explaining the disappointment.

Early Writings, by Ellen G. White. My First Vision

That vision described the second coming but did not give any explanation at all about the Oct 22,1888 prediction or about the heavenly sanctuary where Christ is now ministering as our high priest. You simply "made that up". Her first vision as a teen was given months after the October 22 event but the explanation for that event first came from Hiram Edson on October 23, 1844 not from Ellen Harmon.



Posting false stories and false accusations as you do - this is just 'another in a large pile of examples' of your claims not holding water.

I pray that the point comes in your posts where ranting has less value than telling the truth

NONE of her visions were of the Lord though, as her theology does not agree with the scriptures!

 

[thatbrian]

Was this song written about Ellen G White?