Is the Angel of the Lord in the OT Jesus?

[Van]

That was Yahweh in form of the Angel to Gideon!

Utter nonsense, read the passage and admit once again you are wrong, obviously wrong. The Angel of the LORD does not always refer to the Second Person of the Trinity.

 

[rsr]

As to the OP: No, I do not.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

What time was THE Angel of the Lord in the OT NOT preincarnated appearance of Christ then?

How many references would result in your posting that your view was nonsense?
In Judges 6:21-23 the Angel of the LORD disappeared, yet Gideon kept talking to Yahweh.

You are looking at the wrong verses. Try Judges 6:12-14.
See also Genesis 21:17; Genesis 31:11, 13; Judges 13:21-22, and compare Exodus 13:21 with Exodus 14:19-20.

 

[Van]

You are looking at the wrong verses. Try Judges 6:12-14.
See also Genesis 21:17; Genesis 31:11, 13; Judges 13:21-22, and compare Exodus 13:21 with Exodus 14:19-20.

Your comment is wrong, my reference is correct.

In Judges 6:21-23 the Angel of the LORD disappeared, yet Gideon kept talking to Yahweh.

 

[timtofly]

Yes, as he assumes the name and take son the attrubutes of God Himself, so see Him as a preincarnate God the Son!

What is wrong with a post incarnate body? How can you have a body that physically cannot exist?

The angel of the Lord is sometimes Michael. But they are not the same being. The "Angel" of Jesus would be the Holy Spirit, going strictly by angel definition meaning messenger, because that is what a spirit does. Our spirit acts as a direct messenger with God. So context matters. If the being is mistaken for a human then Michael may have been sent first. I realize that claiming the Holy Spirit is slightly unorthodox in reference to an OT event, but as the same being as God or the Word, the Holy Spirit could start out the encounter looking like a star or angel. The fiery bush would be the Holy Spirit as an all consuming fire, that did not consume the bush. Yes, it is quite possible that the Holy Spirit as the Angel of the Lord did work in the OT. Or it could have been Michael as an angel (star) appearing as a bright being, or in human form so as not to scare the individual.

It could also have been a post incarnate body of Jesus as the Lamb, or the Holy Spirit and talking to God as the final version. Only those who hold strict dispensational views argue the Holy Spirit could never be the Angel of the Lord. Yet the trinity has never changed. The church just had the chance to do more signs and wonders as individuals than having a single high priest represent the whole nation. Or a prophet called for one specific purpose. God as God letting the Holy Spirit work as the Lord's Angel does not go against any Scripture. Using a different form, just like Jesus was God the Word, for the Holy Spirit just seems natural to do.

 

[Yeshua1]

As to the OP: No, I do not.

The Angel of the Lord spoke and acted as God, so which Person of Trinity would it be then?