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Is the CIA report one more attempt by Obama to embarrass Bush?

righteousdude2

righteousdude2

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Use of Time said:
This is about what I expected. Why don't you add this response to your bully thread.
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If you see my response as bullying, you are looking for things that aren't there. Actually your previous comment was more than I expected from you; so be my guest cut and paste to another site to stir more problems up.


It's just that you and you BFF's are enjoying making light of me. So go ahead and make yourself happy!
 
Zaac

Zaac

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righteousdude2 said:
If you see my response as bullying, you are looking for things that aren't there. Actually your previous comment was more than I expected from you; so be my guest cut and paste to another site to stir more problems up.


It's just that you and you BFF's are enjoying making light of me. So go ahead and make yourself happy!
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:rolleyes:
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This mess continues to be ridiculous.
 
U

Use of Time

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righteousdude2 said:
If you see my response as bullying, you are looking for things that aren't there. Actually your previous comment was more than I expected from you; so be my guest cut and paste to another site to stir more problems up.


It's just that you and you BFF's are enjoying making light of me. So go ahead and make yourself happy!
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Yeah, the sleepy face and the word "yawn" were very polite comments in response to my comment.
 
poncho

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HankD said:
"kill or be killed".

Of course its true poncho.

However the reality is that when survival/panic settles in "should live by..." is the wrong descriptive phrase.

We seemingly by nature adopt the law of the jungle.
It's what we do instinctively, not what we should do.

HankD
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Is it because of instinct or conditioning?

In the real world, statistics from a 2004 National Safety Council report, the National Center for Health Statistics, the U.S. Census Bureau, and 2003 mortality data from the Center for Disease Control show:

Read More At: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/06/fear-of-terror-makes-people-stupid.html
 
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carpro

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poncho said:
Is it because of instinct or conditioning?

Fear of Terror Makes People Stupid

In the real world, statistics from a 2004 National Safety Council report, the National Center for Health Statistics, the U.S. Census Bureau, and 2003 mortality data from the Center for Disease Control show:

– You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

— You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

— You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

— You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

–You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

— You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

— You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

–You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

–You are 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

–You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

–You are 8 times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

— You are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack


Read More At: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/06/fear-of-terror-makes-people-stupid.html
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whew!!! that's a relief.

Now I can sleep at night. :sleeping_2:
 
carpro

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poncho said:
Before you go to sleep give up your rights just in case the terrorists get you before you wake up. :smilewinkgrin:
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Nope. Nor my guns.

Hopefully I won't get killed in a wreck before I wake up.
 
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HankD

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poncho said:
Is it because of instinct or conditioning?

In the real world, statistics from a 2004 National Safety Council report, the National Center for Health Statistics, the U.S. Census Bureau, and 2003 mortality data from the Center for Disease Control show:

Read More At: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/06/fear-of-terror-makes-people-stupid.html
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Greetings poncho,

Many years ago I took a course in statistics at the University of MA.
Which course had a heavy math prerequisite as it turned out to be the toughest math course I had ever taken to that point.

The first day of the course the professor walked in and said "with the use of statistics you can prove anything".

"100% of all people who eat carrots will die".

Ever since then I am always skeptical when statistics are used to prove a point and in our case of discussion when used by anybody on any of the news commentary presentations (NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, MSNBC, etc...)

However we would probably agree that in the case of this discussion, statistics are a persuasion mainstay of both sides (and their devotees) of the rightie-leftie aisle.

I read through the piece as well as some of the responses (with not a few in Arabic BTW).

Some responses showed the illogical skewing and misuse (probably an oxymoron when it comes to statistic use) of the statistics within the piece. But it did have some value for me proving one more time that statistics are probably the number one tool in the propagandists bag of tricks. I think we can agree.

In reality, the result of a fear induced psychosomatic disease (e.g. heart attack) will kill you just as dead as being the victim of a plane crash.

Also, the sin nature combined with our natural fear of death comes into play here.

So, I would say both the skill of the propogandor working upon the emotional instability of the propogandee can be used to trigger the "kill or be killed" mentality which IMO is innate in all of us.

HankD
 
poncho

poncho

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HankD said:
Greetings poncho,

Many years ago I took a course in statistics at the University of MA.
Which course had a heavy math prerequisite as it turned out to be the toughest math course I had ever taken to that point.

The first day of the course the professor walked in and said "with the use of statistics you can prove anything".

"100% of all people who eat carrots will die".

Ever since then I am always skeptical when statistics are used to prove a point and in our case of discussion when used by anybody on any of the news commentary presentations (NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, MSNBC, etc...)

However we would probably agree that in the case of this discussion, statistics are a persuasion mainstay of both sides (and their devotees) of the rightie-leftie aisle.

I read through the piece as well as some of the responses (with not a few in Arabic BTW).

Some responses showed the illogical skewing and misuse (probably an oxymoron when it comes to statistic use) of the statistics within the piece. But it did have some value for me proving one more time that statistics are probably the number one tool in the propagandists bag of tricks. I think we can agree.

In reality, the result of a fear induced psychosomatic disease (e.g. heart attack) will kill you just as dead as being the victim of a plane crash.

Also, the sin nature combined with our natural fear of death comes into play here.

So, I would say both the skill of the propogandor working upon the emotional instability of the propogandee can be used to trigger the "kill or be killed" mentality which IMO is innate in all of us.

HankD
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Yes I do agree about stats but as you say they do have some value.

In this case the stats were meant to show that American's are far less likely to die in a terrorist attack than our government and media lead us to believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSk4SUpWVuY

"So, I would say both the skill of the propogandor working upon the emotional instability of the propogandee can be used to trigger the "kill or be killed" mentality which IMO is innate in all of us."

Agreed. The government and media (propogandors) started working our emotional instability right after 9/11 and haven't given up yet.

It's gotten to the point of absurdity. The government funds and arms the Islamic fighters it calls "rebels", see Libya and Syria until "ISIS" emerges from the fray then the government tells us that we have to fight these "new terrorists" because they pose a grave threat to our national security, then congress okay's sending the Syrian "rebels" half a billion dollars to fight "ISIS" who rose out of the ranks of the "rebels" because we were funding and arming them so well.

Someone is making a killing from terrorism, and the threat of terrorism, and it's not the American, Iraqi, Libyan or Syrian people.
 
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