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Is the KJV God?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by tinytim, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. Rufus_1611

    Rufus_1611 New Member

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    Simmer down. I have not done anything and I have stated I do not have an established position on this matter. However, I do not discount a brother that makes this argument as I beleive the argument has merit. You're getting pretty excited over me trying to defend an alcohol is sin thread.

    I don't promote idol worship for if you recall I was pretty vocal about a pastor who was handing out plastic Jesus Dolls. If I have to choose between idolizing the Bible and idolizing plastic, I think you know what side I would desire to err on.
     
  2. tinytim

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    I think you missed something here....
    where is the other one?
     
  3. Bro Tony

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    And if this was talking about the KJV, does that mean that we did not have the Word among us until 1611? It is just very poor understand of the Scripture to associate the Word in both the Gospel and Epistle of John to a Bible. Clearly he is talking about the living Word---Jesus!!

    Bro Tony
     
  4. tinytim

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    Well I am not talking about alcohol here... and the thread about the Jesus dolls is somewhere else... but I never said they were God...

    How can you support someone that believes heretical teaching...

    The Bible is not God!
     
  5. James_Newman

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    Can you separate the Living Word from God's spoken word? If Jesus is the Word, and all things were created by Him, how do I explain God speaking creation into existence in Genesis?
     
  6. tinytim

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    Yes the Living Word was crucified, buried, and rose again.

    The spoken word is in the Bible....

    I've got to go for a while, be back tonight....
     
  7. James_Newman

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    As far as I can tell from scripture, those are the same Word.
     
  8. rbell

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    When Paul wrote to the Corinthians...did he cause Jesus to incarnate Himself on the papyrus?

    Why wasn't a Bible just sacrificed on the cross, since it and Jesus are synonymous?

    Come on. Context 101.

    "The Bible is God" is heresy.

    I love and cherish the written word of God. But it was the living, breathing Son of God that lived a perfect life, and died for my sins, and was raised on the third day.
     
  9. Rufus_1611

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    I agree with his doctrinal statement online 100%, I agree with the sermon I listened to, he defends my Bible, and people I disagree with most of the time find him to be a heretic. See how easy it is for me? :)
     
  10. bapmom

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    Rufus,

    Im KJV only as well.....and Im hard pressed to see anything but heresy in the idea that God is a book.....any book. We do not worship the King James version, nor the Textus Receptus for that matter.

    Jesus was/is the Word of God come in the flesh. He is the fulfillment of the promises which the Father made throughout history to send a saviour. Thus Jesus is the Way God kept His "word" to us. Jesus is the Word....the fullfillment of a promise.

    The Bible is God's revealed will to man for mankind. It contains His message to us, and it is vital that we have it correct. However, it is still a Book, not part of the Godhead.
     
  11. rbell

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    well said.

    Rufus...so it's OK for this guy to promote heretical teaching, just as long as you agree on separation/social issues, and you have "common enemies?"

    Come on...I know you've got better discernment than that.
     
  12. Jon-Marc

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    The Son of God is the LIVING Word, while the Bible is His WRITTEN word. The WORD spoken of in that scripture is the Son of God and NOT his written word.
     
  13. Rufus_1611

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    I'm saying that I am not convinced that it is heretical and not convinced that even if it were it would be a cause for disfellowship or cause to mock and ridicule him. I have held to some pretty heinous doctrines in my past and have adjusted these doctrines by prayer, reading and listening. This pastor has enough of the other things right that I would listen more to his argument on this issue.
     
  14. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Am I in the twighlight zone? Is someone calling the KJV God? Oh my word! This is heretical and blasphemous. Now I have heard everything.
     
  15. DeeJay

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    Take into account that he is a pastor and will be held more accountable for leading others. IF he is teaching that KJV is god then he is a false teacher.

    I am sure some of the heinous doctirnes you have held to in the past were corrected in part with the help of your pastor. What happens when the pastor holds to a heretical doctrine.

    If his teachings about who God is are wrong, does the other things he (may) have right matter much?
     
  16. robycop3

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    God did not speak the KJV into existence. It was made by men, same as all other English versions.
     
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    You still haven't told us if your KJV of the scriptures has been made flesh and is living with you.
     
  18. robycop3

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    IMO, this "Pastor" Anderson is a wing nut starting his own little cult-ette & should be completely ignored by evangelical Christians, and especially Baptists. Apparently he's so eaten up with the false KJVO doctrine that it's enabled an "unclean spirit" to "possess" him & lead him into idolatry.

    We KNOW-not GUESS-that the whole KJVO thingie is false & entirely man-made. Ask a KJVO for Scriptural support for KJVO & he/she will hemhaw around, spin, try to change the subject, go silent....ANYTHING but give a direct answer that there ISN'T ANY SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT, or lamely quote Psalm 12:6-7, a proven-wrong premise straight from the "Party-Line" KJVO's "User's Manual".

    The latter is what Anderson gave me when I asked him for Scripture to support his position. When I gave him the proof from the AV 1611 that the Psalm thingie is false, he failed to respond any more.

    Brethren, Anderson is a glaring example of what too much immersion in false doctrines can do to one's brain. I hope all of you disregard him completely except to pray for him.
     
  19. mima

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    The KJV

    This thread is very interesting. While I did not start out to be a KJV only person that is the position I find myself in. As I go about witnessing I only use the KJV version of the holy Bible. When witnessing to a variety of people you will see that more people have a vague knowledge of the KJV version than any other. Also it is my belief that more people are confused by the other versions, than were ever confused by a simple understanding of the KJV version. People are forever telling me I believe every word of the Bible but of course that would be totally impossible since they don't know the word of the Bible.
    Now I use my Bible to show them exactly what the word of God says, and 90% of the time after I do so they immediately change their countenance, their objections, and listened to what you have to say.
    I do not consider myself an expert on the KJV version, but I do know it well enough that if you misquoted to me the majority the time I will catch it. In witnessing I have found out that it is not wise to quote the Bible to anyone but rather to have an open Bible and let them read from it themselves. In this way the word of God convicts their hearts and you can expect many many people to come to the Lord.
     
  20. robycop3

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    Roger, whaddya expect from someone who has "1611" in his handle, but quotes from the 1769...unless 1611 is his badge # at work or something similar.
     
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