Is the KJV God?

Scripture before you is God talking!!! He doesn't speak to us audibly anymore---but He speaks through the printed pages of Scripture!!

 

blackbird? are you on the side that the Bible is God? am I confused?

 

Scripture is God speaking

When Scripture speaks --- God speaks

They are not identical---but they are inseperable

 

Having seen his 'type' come and go through the space of many years, I would venture to say 'yes'.

The sad part is that he has a family and more than likely his kids will pay the price for his heresy and folly.

 

Yes...But...

We must always make the object of our worship God...not the Book. That would be idolatry.

Also...God can speak to us outside of Scripture; but His words to us shall never contradict His written Word. Furthermore, the fact that God can speak outside of His Word to us should never give His followers license to ignore the reading, hearing, studying, and memorizing of Scripture.

 

I have a nice 8 by 10 color glossy of my Dad that I could show you. And if you asked who that is, I would say it is my Dad. Would you argue with me? Is it really my Dad?????…… no but it is what he looks like, or at least what he did look like at that point in time.

Funny, the way a picture is made these days…. pixels and pixels upon pixels…. thousands of tiny dots that are of various colors that are laid in specific places. Zoom in on some picture on that computer and keep zooming in and you see tens or perhaps hundreds of thousands of little tiny squares of different colors. Get a magnifying glass on the Sunday cartoon page, same thing there.

So I also have this picture of my Heavenly Father. one that describes Him accurately. Each word is given with specific intent and is laid in such an order as to insure an accurate representation of what he looks like (or rather is like)…… much as the pixels in my Dad’s picture.

And if someone were to start adding or deleting or changing (color/position) those pixels…… would the picture still accurately reflect the subject matter? Would I still recognize the picture as my Dad? Would it still “be” a picture of my Dad?

When I hold up that picture of my Dad and proudly proclaim “This is my Dad”, would any of you think I was nuts because that object I am holding up could not have given me life or care? Or would you be in agreement that yes, he’s a nice looking man?

Why will you go so crazy when someone hold up the KJV and says “This is the God I serve”? The KJV is a more accurate a representation of God than the 8 by 10 is of my Dad.

And by reason, I can proudly hold up my Bible and say, “This is the God I Serve”.

Now I could go on to insinuate a lot with this….. but that is for each of you to deal with. There is plenty of information as to the origins and conditions of the various manuscripts that were used in each of the versions.

 

Tom, if you had quoted Mr. Anderson correctly you might have a point. But this is what he actually said:

He said the King James Bible is his God. He said that other versions are also gods. Now, maybe he meant it differently than what he said in his post, but since he won't come back and discuss it, we are left with nothing but his words.

 

Tom,

I would say that it was a picture of your Dad, but that's beside the point. If I hold up my ESV and say "This is the God I serve" what would you think? In other words, is this a debate about versions or about the proper way to speak about Scripture?



All,

Does the prohibition against worship of graven images apply here?

 

Amy,
Since I didn't quote Mr. Anderson at all......., what does that do to my point. I am well aware of what he was said. Would it have been acceptable to you if he had said

"I have one God - (the one God revealed in) the King James Bible - not 10 different Gods (the Gods revealed in the Modern Versions) who all say things a little differently."?

whatever,
If you held up you ESV and said "This is the God I serve", I would think that you preferred the ESV above other translations.

Sorry gang, I just don't get a picture of Mr. Anderson bowing before a KJV with candles and incense etc.... I picture a man convinced that the KJV is God's revelation of himself to man. And I have noticed that in several posts he has his say and is gone, long before you show up with the knives to slice and dice. I assume that he at times checks the boards and chuckles to still see you swarming like a hive of bees over something he started way back when.....

 

The KJV is God's revelation of Himself, along with all the other translations. They do not reveal a "different God". That just shows his ignorance and bias. Like I said, maybe he didn't mean it the way he said it, but since he wont' engage in any discussion, we have no way of knowing for sure. But, if I were to hold up my Bible and say "I only serve one God, the NKJV", I think you'd probably question my intent.

 

Sorry, I see a goofy man three fries short of a Happy Meal.

 

Not to mention... sanity.:smilewinkgrin:

 

Hello tinytim.
Where do we find the Word of God? Is God talking to any one today other than through His Word? The Bible is the Word of God. No Bible no Word of God. If Bibles agree with the KJV then they also are the Word of God. From Textus Receptus came the KJV correcting the mistakes in the Latin Vulgate.

Is the Bible God? It is His Word, and the Word was made flesh. How do we know God today? Through His Word. Were do we find His Word? Only in the Bible. Is the KJV a Bible? If so then when we read His Word we are able to worship Him in Spirit as He speaks to us through His Word. With out the Bible, KJV or no, there would still be a God, but we could not know Him.

Other manuscripts earlier dated than Textus Receptus have appeared, but have they, or any other translation proved the KJV wrong of understanding His Word? What other God do we have than we find in His Word, the KJV Version, and others that agree?

 

If every Bible on earth were to suddenly disappear, I could still know God because He is in me. I have the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit alive and well and living in me! He makes Himself known in many ways apart from the written word. Although the written word is very important, it is only one way God has revealed Himself. The early church didn't have a NT and believe me, they KNEW God.

 

Hence the crux of the argument.

If they are one and the same, then they would be interchangeable.

They are not, so they must not be identical.

:thumbs:

 

I "googled" up the subject of the "Textus Receptus"----- found some pretty good articles

 

People calling the Bible God. Give me a break :jesus:

 

Did any of these good articles answer my following question?

How do you make
the plural of 'Textus Receptus'? Or is it already plural?
There were multiple TRs: original language sources available
to the Translators of the KJVs.

 

But you have the benefit of His Word, before His Word is taken from you. Without the book, how long do you think the message would remain the same? The only way your grandchildren could know the truth is if you wrote down verbatim what God revealed to you, and then your grandchildren would have their Bible knowing it was the Word of God. How would they know this? For you wrote down exactly what you had read in the Bible before it disappeared.

The early church had the walking, talking Word of God being preached to them. Then God saw to it that each individual He chose wrote down His Word, because God wasn't going to have further verbal communication with man. Christ gave the last word for salvation available to all, today, to one man for a purpose. This is the only way you know that salvation is now by the grace of God through faith, apart from any work other than that of our Lord Jesus Christ. The gospel now includes me, and not just His very own nation.

How did you find out about the Body of Christ Church? This was unknown until Christ revealed it from heaven to man. He had a man write these things down for us. We have the same information the early Christian churches had for the gospel of the Cross was taught, and it was written down for us. The early Christian church had these books, unless you wish to ignore, or just refuse to believe Peter knew what he was talking about with his warning in II Peter 3:15-16.

And where do we find this vital information from God? He had Paul write this for your benefit, otherwise how could you have known it? Surely you're not saying you knew this before you read his book.