IS the "Restainerr' mentioned By Apostle Paul the Holy Spirit?

[revmwc]

Concerning your inquiry about false messiahs & prophets, it was the decievers and false prophets that 'prevailed with the multitude to act like madmen and went before them into the wilderness, pretending that God would there show them the signals of liberty' and who persuaded the Jews to revolt to begin with.
http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1510882&highlight=False+prophets#post1510882




Tribes of the earth = tribes of the land (of Palestine). I assure you that Caiphus and Annus were not the only Jews of that generation that seen the Son of Man coming in the clouds in vengeance.



The sound of the gospel trumpet has been gathering God's elect into His kingdom for over two millenia now.


New Jerusalem = New Covenant
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Question for you revmwc. I've presented several 'imminent return' passages, as in Christ specifically says there's some living that won't die before He returns, this generation will not pass away, etc.

Can you produce scripture that states that the coming of the Son of Man was to be 'THOUSANDS' of years away as you assert?

Christ was very clear that no man knew the day nor the hour, not even Himself.
I have already given the 2 Peter passage and you don't believe it means that shortly or quickly can mean 1000 years to the Lord, but here again is the passage in 2 Peter 3: 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Psalms 90 tells us 4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

We see Gods timetable. What we see as many years God sees a 1000 years a day or as yesterday. Why do you think God picked the 1000 years for these verses?
Several ways to look at the number 1000.
10 x 10 x 10 = 1000 10 being the number for perfection or completion of order the number 10 equals ordinal perfection.
It can also be seen a 20 x 50 = 1000, 20 the number of expectancy and 50 the number of jubilee or deliverence.

Then we can see 2000 would be 2 (division) fold 1000 thus representing the expectancy of deliverance from division.
50 x 40 = 2000 so the number of deliverence is 50 while the number 40 is the number for probation, trial and chastisement (not judgrement) So 2000 would represent a time of probation, trial and judgement prior to deliverence and isn't the church seen in those aspects as we await the deliverence from all those things.

God doesn't arbitrarily use numbers in His Word. 7 = spiritual perfection, 5 = Grace and 2000 divide by 5 = 400 = a divinely perfect period. So we can see the period of Grace in a divinely perfect period of time.
God uses numbers to reveal things to us.

 

[JesusFan]

Concerning your inquiry about false messiahs & prophets, it was the decievers and false prophets that 'prevailed with the multitude to act like madmen and went before them into the wilderness, pretending that God would there show them the signals of liberty' and who persuaded the Jews to revolt to begin with.
http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1510882&highlight=False+prophets#post1510882




Tribes of the earth = tribes of the land (of Palestine). I assure you that Caiphus and Annus were not the only Jews of that generation that seen the Son of Man coming in the clouds in vengeance.



The sound of the gospel trumpet has been gathering God's elect into His kingdom for over two millenia now.


New Jerusalem = New Covenant
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Question for you revmwc. I've presented several 'imminent return' passages, as in Christ specifically says there's some living that won't die before He returns, this generation will not pass away, etc.

Can you produce scripture that states that the coming of the Son of Man was to be 'THOUSANDS' of years away as you assert?

Actually, the "new jerusalem" is the heavenly domain/city for the Body of Christ, NOT the new Covenant...

And do you remember Jesus telling parables witht he main point of story being that IF he comes back in a Long time from time that he left, we still need to be found busy and doing His work?

IF jesus indeed did come back already...

When Did the messiah reign foretold by both isaiah and John actually happen?

When NO more wars. disease, tribulation etc?

If messiah came back already, was is this Worlsd STILl ruled by system of satan, not that of God?

COULD it be the messaih, jesus, actually has NOT returned yet to set all things up as was promised?