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is there such a thing as a 'Baptist Eschatology" Church statement of belief?
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David Lamb
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It cannot be, because one of the Baptist distinctives is the autonomy (under Christ) of each local church. Among Baptists/Baptist church, there is a wide variety of eschatological positions - pre-mil, amil, etc.
Agreed, just seems though that many Baptists seem to equate must hold a prettrib premil view
David Lamb
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I don't know what the numbers are, but I do know the most of the Baptists I am acquainted with personally are amil.
Well, I guess we cannot take or hold a position on the Trinity - since the Bible does not mention Trinity
The first English Baptists had a simple eschatology. In 1644, the London Baptist churches met and compiled a simple confession of faith and agreed that Christ's Kingdom is in this world partially now (Article 19) until at the end He comes a second time to establish His Kingdom fully (Article 20). That historically is what Baptists believe.
How this all "plays out" is up to each local church autonomously, and even then, to each member individually with soul liberty. We here on the Baptist Board reflect a great diversity of eschatological positions. All except mine, of course, are wrong.
How this all "plays out" is up to each local church autonomously, and even then, to each member individually with soul liberty. We here on the Baptist Board reflect a great diversity of eschatological positions. All except mine, of course, are wrong.
The numbers are approximately 70% hold to premillennialism with amil less common (it's about 50%/50% among Reformed Baptists). This was from a 2016 study among Baptist churches.
and don't forget that very small % who believe the rapture happened in 70AD (no, I am not in that group)
And how about that even smaller group who hold that it happened in 66 AD? My belief BTW.
So when did the graves open up and bodies depart ?
There were no graves physically opening up. But the souls at that time either rose up to reward or judgment, Dan. 12:2.
David Lamb
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Matthew specifies that their bodies were raised:
“51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, 52 and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.” (Mt 27:51-53 NKJV)
If just their souls were raised, how did they "appear to many?"
Those bodies were indeed raised but that was not the resurrection that Daniel 12:2 refers to. The Matt. 27 event was a separate, earlier event.
"53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many. 54So when the centurion and those with him, who were guarding Jesus, saw the earthquake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly, saying, “Truly this was the Son of God!””
All of this shows this event happened at the time of the Crucifixion, not AD 66.
"53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many. 54So when the centurion and those with him, who were guarding Jesus, saw the earthquake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly, saying, “Truly this was the Son of God!””
All of this shows this event happened at the time of the Crucifixion, not AD 66.
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David Lamb
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The verse you mention says:
“And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt.” (Da 12:2 NKJV)
It doesn't specify whether it will b a resurrection of just the soul, or a bodily resurrection. Anyway, sorry I assumed wrongly that you were referring to the opening of graves when Jesus died on the cross.