Is this heresy?

That was repentance benz; a godly sorrow and belief from the Heart that He was the Christ.

Jhn 8:24I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am [he], ye shall die in your sins.

He did believe that He was the Christ. He believed enough to die on it.

Also, he did receive eternal life that day. He was on his way to paradise. If he had not of believed that day, hell would of been his home.


BTW, I don't know any sinless people and never said I did. There are sins that born again christians don't commit but thats not to say they don't sin.

 

Where does it say he repented? And if so what did he repent of?
Repentance is not being sorry for your sins.

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

He didn't have eternal life when he believed? You mean Jesus lied?

But you have no way of knowing what those sins are since none of the lists you quote from are exclusive. Many of your own pet sins (the ones that make you a sinner) may be the very ones that will keep you out of heaven according to your own theology. All sin is vile and wicked in God's sight. He doesn't see any difference between a lie and adultery. It's all the same in his sight.

In our eyes one sin may be greater than another, and the consequences surely are greater. But in God's eyes all sin is a transgression of His law. And it will all be evil enough to send a person to hell. So your little pet sins will send you to hell if you die of heart attack and they remain unconfessed (which for everyone of us is a good possibility).
But I don't believe that theology, so I do not believe that it is a possibility.

 

He certainly "turned" from his old ways that day.

You really do need to practice up on your reading skills DHK; I did say he believed. Did you actually overlook where I said "belief" or just want to be negative?

Yea, but I told you that Jesus said he would never forsake me and if I have any, he will be sure to take care of them for he did say he would present me blameless. You see He is an advocate for my "pet" sins as you call them. I wonder what God thinks about you calling them "pet" sins?
I trust in Jesus DHK; Do you?

 

Yea, but I told you that Jesus said he would never forsake me and if I have any, he will be sure to take care of them for he did say he would present me blameless. You see He is an advocate for my "pet" sins as you call them. I wonder what God thinks about you calling them "pet" sins?
I trust in Jesus DHK; Do you? by Bob

What make Jesus an advocate for your sins and not anybody else?

 

1Jo 2:1¶My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
(I never mentioned anything about anyone else, that is your "nutty" like thoughts coming out)

I throw this one in for good measure. You might be interested in reading it.

1Jo 2:4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Glad to see you admitted to probably being a "nut" on the baptist board. I concur. IMO

 

I'll admit to being a nut. However as Oliver Green used to say at least I am screwed on the right bolt! I am glad Bob that when I sin I have an advocate to go to the Father for me and tell Him, "Father, shiloh sinned again but remember the Blood?"

 

I do believe that he will never leave me and never forsake me. Thus I believe I am eternally secure even if I die in sin. If you die in sin you don't believe that you are eternally secure, you just have this blind faith that you will not die in sin. It is an alomst fatalistic belief. How do you know this? Where do you get this inside knowledge from? Is it prophetci, or just plain gnosticism? You admit you are a sinner and at the same time say that you will not die with sin in your life? How do you know that? God did not promise grace to keep you from sin, otherwise you wouldn't be a sinner. Can't you see the logic there? If you die suddenly with unconfessed sin, by your theology, you will end up in hell. You don't know what sins God has included in that list in Rev.22 by your own admission, since it is not all inclusive. You could be on your way to hell without knowing it. True?

 

Well, I could be but again I have this thing called faith and also I have Jesus. You said you believed that He would never leave you also and I know because you have said before that He is your advocate in case you do sin, so you believe He will be there, He is your advocate and promised to present you blameless, but you believe He will just be there but won't do nothing for you until its too late. I got more faith than that. So, I don't believe He will let me die and go to Hell, you can if you want.

 

At least they found a use for you.

Yea, but you got this hang up that if you are dying, He won't plead your case for you in time.

 

The difference is that He won't let me die and go to hell under any circumstance, unconfessed sin or not. You don't have that assurance. You have the blind faith that he will be there, just like a Catholic hopes that a priest will arrive to administer the sacrament of extreme unction before he dies. That is not faith; it is hope, and a rather frail hope. If you die suddenly what hope do you have; what assurance do you have that you will no unconfessed sin in you life? You have none. You talk of Jesus not forsaking you and the grace of God keeping you. Those are lame promoises when neither one of them give you a guarantee from keeping you from sin. They don't because you already admit to sinning and being a sinner. If you sin, you could sin and then die of a heart attack before you had a chance to confess it. What then? Suppose that sin was on that list in Rev.22? What then?

 

Hey friend, My hang up's left a long time ago. Now I am secure in Christ. My God is big enough to keep me. I know He loves me I am glad I don't have a hope so religion..........Rom 8:38,39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

I am so wonderously saved from sin, Jesus so sweetly abides within, there at the cross He took me in; Glory to His name.

Oh, precious fountain that saves from sin, I am so glad I have entered in; there Jesus saves me and keeps me clean; Glory to His name Glory, to His name, Glory to His name, there to my heart was the Blood aplied, glory to His name!

 

Those are the words of a man with weak faith.

If you don't get forgiveness of your sins as the theif on the cross when you leave here you will never see what Heaven looks like for there will be not sinners in Heaven, and that is for sure.

Again, Jesus, is not a Catholic priest and for you to compare Him to one is blasphemy.

 

That is what I been saying. Glad you got a better message than DHK give, that Jesus saved you from sin, and keeps me clean
I don't think you really believe this though, by your previous posts. This is what I believe.
there Jesus saves me and keeps me clean.

Shiloh:
My God is big enough to keep me. I know He loves me.
there Jesus saves me and keeps me clean; Glory to His name Glory, to His name, Glory to His name.
I hope you believe this!

DHK; don't have that faith that he will keep him clean. He believes that Satan can keep him in sin and he can die in the filth of Satan and a servant of Satan, and God can't do nothing about it.

 

If you don't get forgiveness of your sins as the theif on the cross when you leave here you will never see what Heaven looks like for there will be not sinners in Heaven, and that is for sure.by Bob

And you call me a nut? Oh by the way don't complement me! I haven't said anything different then what I have been saying all along. I said according to Rom.8. NOTHING can get me lost/unsaved/cast into hell, you understand, NOTHING!!! My hope is built on nothing less then Jesus Blood and Righteousness; I dare not trust the sweetest frame, but wholly lean on Jesus name.

On the other hand Bob you sing (and without music I presume in your church) My hope is built on nothing less then Jesus blood and righteousness and my good works, I put my trust in my sweet frame and goodness and lean a little on Jesus name.

 

I'm not the one with the weak faith; you are. I know that when I die I will go to heaven no matter what happens to me. Even if I fall in sin (God forbid that should happen), I know I will go to heaven. You have no such assurance. You aren't the thief on the cross. There is no comparison. It is apples and oranges.

 

If God don't remove that sin when you die, IMO you will never see Heaven for there will not be any sinners in Heaven. Nothing unclean shall be there.

 

And if God doesn't remove your sin?

 

There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus.
He has already removed all my sins.
They are all under the blood.
That is one thing I don't have to worry about. I don't hold to your theology.

 

Ok, DHK; I know how you believe, but yet you believe that Jesus paid for your sins, but in this life you also will pay for any more sins you commit by chastisement. Don't make sense if they are never to be remembered against you but when you do them you have to confess them, and suffer for them, now does it.