I think there are other, more important and pressing issues to consider though!I am in a very good church. But... they do not see open air preaching, million dollar tracts, and mikes hard lemonades as wrong.
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I think there are other, more important and pressing issues to consider though!I am in a very good church. But... they do not see open air preaching, million dollar tracts, and mikes hard lemonades as wrong.
I think that we both know that one, as it involves vows and covenant, and also in seeking out in books and others what you want, but not need to hear!Name a major issue
I think that we both know that one, as it involves vows and covenant, and also in seeking out in books and others what you want, but not need to hear!
I addressed those instances. Such abuse may constitute separation but it does not dissolve the union. You married a woman. She is your wife. Period. And that's another topic.Why did you ignore this section in a previous post?
Here are some scenarios that may warrant a divorce provided by Keener for the reason of abuse.
What of a woman those husband's verbal assaults have reduced her to the point of contemplating suicide?
A husband who is a drug addict sold everything they had causing them to lose their home.
A husband who beat his wife in front of the children
A husband who exploited the situation to get the children hooked on drugs
In none of the situations above would you give the okay for divorce. You will say they need counseling but what if the husband refuses counseling?
Neither do I, or most people on BB.I am in a very good church. But... they do not see open air preaching, million dollar tracts, and mikes hard lemonades as wrong.
I addressed those instances. Such abuse may constitute separation but it does not dissolve the union. You married a woman. She is your wife. Period. And that's another topic.
Neither do I, or most people on BB.
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What does it say about us when we get entertain by watching people suffer?
"Even if Keener is wrong"??!!! Good grief man. Read the Bible.Well even if Keener is wrong and I did sin in this situation nothing I can do about it as she refuses to reconcile and I did try more than once.
I am not against you, was just saying that you seem to come here with your mind made up on things, and post to get us to approve!The divorce issue is one where I will side with Keener. Also I do not only read books that affirm my views as JonC thinks. I read opposing views as well! Why do you think I give credit to the metaphorical view of Hell these days?
You will side with the guy who got his education at the thoroughly Arminian Assemblies of God Seminary and teaches at Arminian (Weslyan) Asbury Seminary?I will side with Keener
It is not about fixing your sin. It is about turning from your sin. The you that would put your desire to drink aboce your wife and your previous church and the you that would abandon your wife for not meeting your expectations really needs to go.Well even if Keener is wrong and I did sin in this situation nothing I can do about it as she refuses to reconcile and I did try more than once.
I take it you would not call divorce either for sexual sin (i.e., adultery, homosexual practice, or bestiality) or irremediable desertion unbiblical (in agreement with the Westminster Confession)?Watching movies is a gray area. What is not a gray area for those who take sanctification and their Christian walk seriously, is unbiblical divorce followed by seeking to commit adultury by marrying someone else.
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There was no sexual sin in this case. Also HE was the one that filed for divorce. He sinned by divorcing his wife without cause and is looking to get commit adultery by marrying someone else.I take it you would not call divorce either for sexual sin (i.e., adultery, homosexual practice, or bestiality) or irremediable desertion unbiblical (in agreement with the Westminster Confession)?
The 'PhiIippians 4:8 Policy' was imposed recently at Cedarville University by president Thomas White. The school in Ohio endorsed by the state's Southern Baptists has many students that were homeschooled:
Christianity Today: Cedarville faculty push back against stricter standards keeping curse words, R-rated movies, and sexual content out of their curricula.
I agree!!!I will focus on R rated movies, but the question could entail all movies. The answer to the question may depend on the movie and or the person as this could be a romans issue where to some people a certain film is a sin, and to others it may not be. I imagine that to the Fundamentalist Baptist any R rated movie would be a sin to watch. And on the other side there are those claiming to be evangelical that will watch anything and claim its all okay.
On the Way of the Master radio podcast I have heard them speak about this issue and the consensus was this is a grey area, but we should not watch things that will dishonor our Lord and to me this means staying away from movies that use the Lord's name in vain repeatedly, attack God, feature much immorality, etc.. However other movies are rated R simply for the violence (Saving Private Ryan) but are actually really good movies. So what do you say?
"Even if Keener is wrong"??!!! Good grief man. Read the Bible.
You will side with the guy who got his education at the thoroughly Arminian Assemblies of God Seminary and teaches at Arminian (Weslyan) Asbury Seminary?
Because he gives you cover to hide behind regarding your vow breaking, unfathfulness, drunkeness, and attempted fornication?
You will side with the guy who got his education at the thoroughly Arminian Assemblies of God Seminary and teaches at Arminian (Weslyan) Asbury Seminary?
Because he gives you cover to hide behind regarding your vow breaking, unfathfulness, drunkeness, and attempted fornication?