Is Your Baby Gay? What If You Could Know? What If You Could Do Something About It?

[Post deleted as I shouldn't be posting in the Baptists Only section. Oops. Sorry!]

 

I have never seen a gay baby. I don't know anyone who has. I doubt if such a person exists.



Romans 1:
26: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28: And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Seeing that God said He would give them over to a reprobate mind, then how could they be born with it?

If we didn't deny science then we would have to throw the Bible away. As for me and my house we will take the scriptures.

If the Bible acknowledges that it may have biological roots, then how come they have to be turned over by God to a reprobate mind?

 

Very good point, Brother Bob! :thumbs:

 

Because of the fall of man in the Garden of Eden.

How do you explain homosexual behavior in the animal world? Do you think that the animals choose to act homosexually?

 

I totally agree. Smoking was once acceptable, but is now becoming a no-no. Smoking can also lead to addiction that is almost impossible to break - unless one calls upon the Lord for forgiveness and help.

If we see it as sin, it is much easier to get over than if people keep telling us how hard it is to stop smoking and our bodies are a slave to it.

One make a choice to light up a cigarette. One makes a choice to keep smoking until they are addicted.

One stops when they realize it is a sin "to them" and it could kill them (physically and spiritually).

Smoking - lung cancer
Alcohol - psorosis of the liver
Homosexuality - AIDS
Gluttony - Heart attack/High blood pressure

There are consequences to sin, folks. The disease did not come first, the sin did.

• Ungodly thoughts
• Dwelling on those thoughts
• Temptation
• Dabbling in sin
• Acting on those temptations
• Adopt those temptations as a lifestyle
• Addiction
• Disease
• Death

The addiction to sin comes first - then the disease.

The wages of sin is death.

 

This is after the fall and the scriptures were written after the fall so that don't have anything to do with it.
Also, what animals you talking about. Because they smell of each other or what. I think you need to quit comparing Man to beast myself.

 

If smoking is a sin, then so are eating too much, or not eating enough, or not sleeping enough, or sleeping too much, or not brushing one's teeth, etc., etc., etc., as all have bad effects on us physically.

 

1) Huh? Man's very nature was affected by the fall in the Garden.

2) I think that you need to educate yourself about homosexuality in the animal world. Do you think that the animals that act that way consciously choose to do so?

 

Why do you think the scriptures were written? If man had not of fallen there would of been no need.
Also, If I catch ole Barney fooling with ole Zeke, I will kill them both. As far as educating myself to homosexuality in animals, I don't think that is on my agenda. I am almost 68 years old and so far it hasn't been a problem. Now humans, that is a different story.
Anyway, I don't want to hijack the thread, so carry on.

 

If you will reread my post, I stated that smoking was a sin "to me". And I also mentioned gluttony as being a sin. I declined to mention every sin mentioned in the Bible, but just picked out a few of the more obvious ones.

 

Yes, and most of us would take an Ambien or a nicotine patch if it would help, too.

 

To teach us about God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

Adam and Eve did not have a predisposition to sin. They were created perfect. Their descendants have all been born with a predisposition to sin. We don't have to be taught to sin. We sin naturally. We are all natural born sinners.

 

Well, I think Adam and Eve, despite their being sinless at the beginning, did have a predisposition to sin, and the comparison Paul made about the first Adam and the Second Adam gives us a glimpse on this.

The first Adam was earthy. He was a created being, of the earth, while the Second Adam was of the Spirit, uncreated, pre-existent, absolutely holy, and no predisposition to sin.

But, it's just me thinking this way.

Could be wrong.

 

Does God call what animals do sin?

To compare homosexuality in the animal world to homosexuality amongst humans is wrong.
You would also have to compare killing, parenting, etc.

 

You would also have to compare "nakeness".

Me think its just our ignorance about animals.


-- "Homosexual" Animals Do Not Exist
In 1996, homosexual scientist Simon LeVay admitted that the evidence pointed to isolated acts, not to homosexuality:

Although homosexual behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity.[11]​

Despite the "homosexual" appearances of some animal behavior, this behavior does not stem from a "homosexual" instinct that is part of animal nature. Dr. Antonio Pardo, Professor of Bioethics at the University of Navarre, Spain, explains:

Properly speaking, homosexuality does not exist among animals.... For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite sex. Therefore, an animal can never be homosexual as such. Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be homosexual. Such behavior cannot be equated with an animal homosexuality. All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction.[12]​

It Is Unscientific To "Read" Human Motivation
And Sentiment Into Animal BehaviorLike many animal rights activists, homosexual activists often "read" human motivation and sentiment into animal behavior. While this anthropopathic approach enjoys full citizenship in the realms of art, literature, and mythology it makes for poor science. Dr. Charles Socarides of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) observes:

 

You are missing the point. As I understand it this thread is discussing whether most homosexuals choose to be attracted to a person of their same gender or are they like most heterosexuals who are attracted to a person of their opposite gender without choosing to do so.

I think that the evidence indicates the latter.

This doesn't excuse homosexual acts any more than it does acts of immorality committed by heterosexuals.

 

I know I've led a sheltered life, but I've had animals since I was born and have never seen any of them have sex with their own gender. Have any of you ever seen it? Or are you just taking the word of science that it's possible?