Islamic March on DC to Spark Revolution

[rbell]

If the US is indeed a 'champion of democracy' what do we do when a democratic election doesn't go our way?

If I see a democratic senator from Wisconsin, I'll ask them.

 

[rbell]

I think it's worth asking this as well: Islamic states in general--Can they move toward democracies? It seems that by their very nature they don't do well with non-theocratic and/or non-totalitarian regimes. It's as if it's not possible for Islam to exist with a system of government based upon individual freedoms and God-given rights.

Maybe that good ol' muslim fatalism ("Allah wills it") simply precludes any form of government that allows freedom.

 

[Don]

I think it's worth asking this as well: Islamic states in general--Can they move toward democracies? It seems that by their very nature they don't do well with non-theocratic and/or non-totalitarian regimes. It's as if it's not possible for Islam to exist with a system of government based upon individual freedoms and God-given rights.

Maybe that good ol' muslim fatalism ("Allah wills it") simply precludes any form of government that allows freedom.

Education. Look at literacy rates. For example, Afghanistan - about 70%.

In the middle ages, the priests had power - because they could read.

Just sayin'.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I think it's worth asking this as well: Islamic states in general--Can they move toward democracies? It seems that by their very nature they don't do well with non-theocratic and/or non-totalitarian regimes. It's as if it's not possible for Islam to exist with a system of government based upon individual freedoms and God-given rights.

Maybe that good ol' muslim fatalism ("Allah wills it") simply precludes any form of government that allows freedom.

Interesting. President Bush once claimed that all people crave a democratic process and was mocked for that belief. I, for one, thought that he was using that as an excuse for action in Iraq. I did not accept that the Muslim populations really wanted the western concept of democracy.

But maybe he was right. Maybe all people do want a voice in their government. The problem now is whether or not the West really want that to happen.

 

[SpiritualMadMan]

You'll notice also that he has chosen DC...

A place where the ownership of guns for self-protection is almost completely illegal...

Hmmmmmmmm

I bet he wouldn't even try it in Georgia!!!!

 

[billwald]

Where in the Bible does God choose democracy as his preferred government for humans?

 

[InTheLight]

I think it's worth asking this as well: Islamic states in general--Can they move toward democracies? It seems that by their very nature they don't do well with non-theocratic and/or non-totalitarian regimes. It's as if it's not possible for Islam to exist with a system of government based upon individual freedoms and God-given rights.

Maybe that good ol' muslim fatalism ("Allah wills it") simply precludes any form of government that allows freedom.

Agree that the usual mindset of Islam favors an authoritative government.

As more and more Muslims get internet access and news outside of the official government channels we will see the push toward democracy, or at least reduced amounts of totalitarianism (half-itarianism? ha!)

The prime movers in the protests in Egypt and Iran are the young, educated professionals, with internet access and/or cell phones. As the older populations of these countries are replaced by the upcoming generations we will see more open societies and the ability of a dictator to suppress the people will diminish.

 

[blackbird]

Where in the Bible does God choose democracy as his preferred government for humans?

He doesn't!!!!!!!!! God's infallable government preferrence is Theocracy!!

Those who are sold on democracy have a hard time surrendering themselves to a pure Theocracy!!!!

 

[carpro]

Agree that the usual mindset of Islam favors an authoritative government.

As more and more Muslims get internet access and news outside of the official government channels we will see the push toward democracy, or at least reduced amounts of totalitarianism (half-itarianism? ha!)

The prime movers in the protests in Egypt and Iran are the young, educated professionals, with internet access and/or cell phones. As the older populations of these countries are replaced by the upcoming generations we will see more open societies and the ability of a dictator to suppress the people will diminish.

I would hope you are right, but as you pointed out, we are dealing with muslims here. Self governance seems to be beyond them.

 

[just-want-peace]

"Self governance seems to be beyond them. "

But what if Allah wills it???????:thumbs::smilewinkgrin:

 

[Robert Snow]

I guess you will just sit there and let them wrap you family members in duct tape and hack their heads off with a pocket knife??????????

Look there are rabid dogs in the school yard...

The *only* way to deal with a dog that has already gone rabid is to put it down...

Intolerance? You want to sday *WE* are intolerant????????

Violence? You want to say *WE* are violent????????????

We are *NOT* the ones demanding the overthrow of America by any means neccesary!

We are *NOT* the ones training children to be suicide bombers. And, then sending them into shopping areas and schools to kill non-combatants!

We are *NOT* the ones demanding the annialation of God's Chosen People Israel!

Sheeeeeeeesssssssshhhhh! :BangHead: :tonofbricks:


Note: I did *NOT* say all Muslims! Some *have* accepted the innoculation of the (few) peaceful chapters of the Quron...

What a ignorant exaggeration! Maybe you should switch to decaf.

 

[righteousdude2]

Is It Christianity vs. Islam?

Is the root of the problem not democracy itself, but whether it is a Christian form of democracy like that here in America and throughout Europe?

Do we fear that an Islamic democracy (with sharia law) would be opposed to our way of dispatching freedom as a Christian nation?

I think, deep down in the hearts of most Westerners and believers, is not that the Arabs want democracy, but the root of their form of democracy will include a form of Islamic justice that includes the worship of a god not in line with the God of Israel! :thumbs:

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :type:

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Is the root of the problem not democracy itself, but whether it is a Christian form of democracy like that here in America and throughout Europe?

Do we fear that an Islamic democracy (with sharia law) would be opposed to our way of dispatching freedom as a Christian nation?

I think, deep down in the hearts of most Westerners and believers, is not that the Arabs want democracy, but the root of their form of democracy will include a form of Islamic justice that includes the worship of a god not in line with the God of Israel! :thumbs:

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :type:

That is the 'problem' with democracy. If we are going to promote it we must realise that it is going to pan out differently in different cultures and may not always be friendly to the traditionally democratic nations.

Aye, there's the rub.