ScottEmerson
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I'm not sure how to respond to this, but I what is on your website is offensive to, I believe, all of the Christians on this board. If it isn't, it would seem that it should be.
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Islamic symbols of hate tower over the city of Tampa.
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Not a very wise strategy.
In the very act of Christians arguing for removal of Islamic religions symbols they will be arguing equally as strong for the removal of their own religious symbols elsewhere.
Converesely, in the very act of Christians arguing for these U.S. Muslim's rights to display their religious symbols, they will be arguing equally as strongly for the right of their own religious symbols to be displayed elsewhere. And to boot, they will have built cross-religious dialogues that can be very important for not only political action where U.S. Muslims and Christians agree (e.g., conservative family values), but evangelism.
Ok, now I will take Ken's advise.
MB,
If you come back to read this, I am not sure whether or not you are sincere, I suspect that you are.
The pictures on that site you had posted were disturbing, I didn't see anyone nude. I did see a little girl with dynamite strapped to her, and I saw a bus that looked like the one that little Abigail (14 yr old daughter of a missionary) was blown up on. I think you were warning about the people promoting that kind of thing, not promoting the violence. I don't think it is wrong to be aware of evil.
It is scary. The insidious way that the muslim faith is being pushed. Kids in public school here were being required to take on a muslim name to get more familiar with that faith, in the name of tolerance. I will not turn a deaf ear to the warnings. There is definately evil there.
No one that I am aware of gave him the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he was promoting the swastika.
If you come back to read this, I am not sure whether or not you are sincere, I suspect that you are.
The pictures on that site you had posted were disturbing, I didn't see anyone nude. I did see a little girl with dynamite strapped to her, and I saw a bus that looked like the one that little Abigail (14 yr old daughter of a missionary) was blown up on. I think you were warning about the people promoting that kind of thing, not promoting the violence. I don't think it is wrong to be aware of evil.
It is scary. The insidious way that the muslim faith is being pushed. Kids in public school here were being required to take on a muslim name to get more familiar with that faith, in the name of tolerance. I will not turn a deaf ear to the warnings. There is definately evil there.
No one that I am aware of gave him the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he was promoting the swastika.
This happened before I came to this site. I'm sure you all must have talked about it, right? Her Dad was an aquaintance of my Grandma.
The daughter of Southern Baptist missionary Philip Litle was killed in the Islamic suicide bombing in Israel last week. Fourteen-year-old Abigail was killed when an Islamic terrorist blew up a bus in Haifa, Israel (Religion Today, Mar. 10, 2003, citing the Boston Herald). She is scheduled to be buried on March 16. The Litles have lived in Israel since 1989 and have four surviving children.
Barnabas H.
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MINDBOMB please check your PM (Personal Message) in your "my profile."
This happened before I came to this site. I'm sure you all must have talked about it, right? Her Dad was an aquaintance of my Grandma.
The daughter of Southern Baptist missionary Philip Litle was killed in the Islamic suicide bombing in Israel last week. Fourteen-year-old Abigail was killed when an Islamic terrorist blew up a bus in Haifa, Israel (Religion Today, Mar. 10, 2003, citing the Boston Herald). She is scheduled to be buried on March 16. The Litles have lived in Israel since 1989 and have four surviving children. [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]I doubt if it was talked about. Whenever I bring up anything about terrorists or anything that sheds a negative, though true, light about Islam on this board, I am attacked as a bigot by the Islamic apologists on here. Sad there are so many on a Baptist web site.
Most Westerners are really deceived about Islam, it's history, and it's goals. Some members on here make excuses for Hamas and Hezbollah - they are not terrorists, they are freedom fighters under persecution from the Jews, blah blah. And worse, we who object to Islam being shoved down our throats by the politically correct left are not showing the love of Christ, we are told. But far greater than that is the Replacement Theology that has taken root in the Church - that the Church has replaced Israel as God's chosen people. And that is promoted here, as well.
MB has a thoroughly researched site.
I raised the question about the Swastika on the profile because it didn't gel & wondered about it. Now he has explained what that was about and the pic has been removed from his profile.
I spent quite a bit of time on his web site yesterday reviewing his material. Many were links I had seen before and they show the cruelty and utter extreme disregard for human life and decency these Islamic "freedom fighters" have for the human race.
MB - expect to be called a bigot on here any moment. I'm surprised, really, that hasn't happened already by the usual suspects.
Your site is well researched and took a lot of time to put together with all the many links. You did a good job on it. It smacks a person into reality with it's shock value about Islam but we are comfortable here behind our keyboards and don't want to see the truth of what is really going on because it is chilling, disturbing, and jolts us out of our delusional comfort zones.
But your site is far too graphic for the faint of heart. People in America aren't ready to see close up views of dead people blown up by the terrorists - as long as it happens somewhere else and not down at our local McDonalds or Wal-Mart. And yet, I know that day will be coming to America before too long. They live here among us.
KenH
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That's not fair, LadyEagle, and you know better than to infer that those of us who have a different view of the modern political state of Israel in relation to Bible teaching than you do are equal to Islamic terrorists.
I am extremely disappointed in you, my sister in Christ.
KenH
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Quote: "Some members on here make excuses for Hamas and Hezbollah...But far greater than that is the Replacement Theology"
LadyEagle's points sounds pretty clear to me. I don't know enough about Replacement Theology to state how much of it I might agree with, but I do know I am very much at odds with LadyEagle's dispensational premillennial views on the modern political state of Israel.
Ken, I started a thread (so as not to hijack this one):
http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001947
http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001947
KenH
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I looked at your new thread. If you want to think I am anti-Semitic and no better than an Islamic terrorist, fine, it's no skin off my nose.
The truth be told, except for the grace of God, I or you or anyone, could have ended up being an Islamic terrorist if we had been born where they are born in the family and society in which they are nurtured.
The truth be told, except for the grace of God, I or you or anyone, could have ended up being an Islamic terrorist if we had been born where they are born in the family and society in which they are nurtured.
What kind of society would that be? A society where there is no toleration of the teachings of Christ, a place where the crucifixion and resurrection are denied, what would they teach in a place like that. Would they let the people read what they were teaching them or would they tell them what the books said. Would they lie to stay in power to become rich to have prestige?
Would they silence every voice they can to keep the truth from being exposed?
Would people assume it was a peaceful way to live and give it innocence by association afforded other religions out of ignorance?
What would you call it? Give it a name.
Sure why would you not take a muslim for a friend or a jewish person .
but remember muslims are warn not to take christians and jews as friends.
"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, (they) shall have no relation left with Allah except by way of precaution ("tat-taqooh"), that ye may guard yourselves ("tooqatan") from them....[3:28]"
They are warned because they are told that
"O' you who believe, take not into intimacy those outside your ranks: they will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire for you to suffer: rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths, what their hearts conceal is far worse." [Al-Imran:118]
so becareful with your muslim friend deception is part and parcel of what they are taught
(Sura 9:5).Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war
Sorry, but you're incorrect about that. Muslims are told not to be friends with unbelievers. They consider "people of the book" (ie, Christians and Jews) to be believers.
Well, as long as you're here, why not just engage in healthy discussion, rather than unhealthy indoctrination?
If you truly think you've got a monopoly on understanding about the subject, you truly are mindless. Your previous posts are copious misunderstanding. But that is your right. I will support it when it comes to discussion, but not when it comes to indoctronation.