Israel’s Restoration?

[Yeshua1]

The first Christians were all Jewish!

 

[robycop3]

No, a child born of jewish parents is still a Jew, same as Chinese parents produce Chinese children, not Caucasians or blacks. maybe these children of Jews weren't/won't be Jewish by religion, they're still Jewish by inheritance.

Now, i'm sure you read the verses from Ezekiel same as I did. God is NOT finished with Israel or Judah! And remember, he told Jeremiah such as He was preparing to have Nebuchadnezzar conquer the Jews & carry them off captive.

"Replacement theology" is as phony as preterism, the KJVO myth, regenerational baptism, mariolatry, and a host of other man-made doctrines of faith/worship.

 

[1689Dave]

No, a child born of jewish parents is still a Jew, same as Chinese parents produce Chinese children, not Caucasians or blacks. maybe these children of Jews weren't/won't be Jewish by religion, they're still Jewish by inheritance.

Now, i'm sure you read the verses from Ezekiel same as I did. God is NOT finished with Israel or Judah! And remember, he told Jeremiah such as He was preparing to have Nebuchadnezzar conquer the Jews & carry them off captive.

"Replacement theology" is as phony as preterism, the KJVO myth, regenerational baptism, mariolatry, and a host of other man-made doctrines of faith/worship.

Judaism and the Jews who practice it are a false religion. There is no Jewish race. There is only one race, the human race. Circumcision made one a physical Jew or Israelite until Christ abolished it on the cross.

“And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;” (Acts 17:26)

 

[HankD]

Judaism and the Jews who practice it are a false religion. There is no Jewish race. There is only one race, the human race. Circumcision made one a physical Jew or Israelite until Christ abolished it on the cross.

“And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;” (Acts 17:26)

True we are all of "one blood" but even up to the very end the Bible still identifies mankind via the distinction of "nations".

Revelation 20
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

 

[1689Dave]

True we are all of "one blood" but even up to the very end the Bible still identifies mankind via the distinction of "nations".

Revelation 20
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

This is true, but God removed the unbelievers from Israel. He will reattach any who believe in Christ. The unbelievers hijacked the name Israel and applied it to themselves. But they technically are gentiles.

 

[Yeshua1]

This is true, but God removed the unbelievers from Israel. He will reattach any who believe in Christ. The unbelievers hijacked the name Israel and applied it to themselves. But they technically are gentiles.

No, Jews are still jews, as again, in Christ does NOT physical change anyone, but spiritually changes them!

 

[1689Dave]

No, Jews are still jews, as again, in Christ does NOT physical change anyone, but spiritually changes them!

Physical Jews became such through circumcision but became gentiles when Christ abolished circumcision.

 

[Yeshua1]

Physical Jews became such through circumcision but became gentiles when Christ abolished circumcision.

NO, as physical jews stay Jews, and gentiles stay physical Gentiles, its just that both are now spiritually in Christ!

 

[1689Dave]

NO, as physical jews stay Jews, and gentiles stay physical Gentiles, its just that both are now spiritually in Christ!

Judaism is a religion embraced by Jews.

 

[Yeshua1]

Judaism is a religion embraced by Jews.

Yes, as that come to them from the Old Covenant , from Yahweh Himself!

 

[robycop3]

Judaism and the Jews who practice it are a false religion. There is no Jewish race. There is only one race, the human race. Circumcision made one a physical Jew or Israelite until Christ abolished it on the cross.

“And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;” (Acts 17:26)

MMRRPP! MOSTLY WRONG!

While the Jews are Caucasians, they're still a DISTINCT PEOPLE, and are once again a NATION.While there are non-Jewish citizens of Israel, it's a JEWISH nation. The jews are the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, & Levi. & they are still part of God's "peculiar" people. There's a good deal of prophecy concerning Israel & Judah that's yet to be fulfilled. While the Bible is a Jesys0centric work, it's still largely the history of Israel and Judah,

The idea that God has replaced Israel with the Church is phony as a Chevy Mustang, same as the idea there's no more Jewish people. Remember, God said He's gonna merge Judah with israel again, back into one nation. While we don't now know who the rest of the Israelis are, GOD KNOWS, & He will reveal it when His time comes.

 

[robycop3]

That post was is in -
What do Preterists believe about 2 Peter 3

Preterism is false, as is proven by the fact that the prophesied events of Jesus' parousia have not yet occurred.

 

[robycop3]

This is true, but God removed the unbelievers from Israel. He will reattach any who believe in Christ. The unbelievers hijacked the name Israel and applied it to themselves. But they technically are gentiles.

HORSE FEATHERS!

Jews are still Jews, & it's quite evident God has NOT yet removed all unbelievers in Jesus from among them! While most Jews today cannot trace their genealogies back to OT times, many can trace it back to Roman times, and they ARE the descendants of those Jews who were absitively, posolutely Jews.

Satan would have you believe God couldn't keep His promises to Israel & Judah & therefore allowed them to be absorbed into other peoples. But GOD said otherwise in Amos 9...

“Behold, the eyes of the Lord God are on the sinful kingdom,
And I will destroy it from the face of the earth;
Nevertheless, I will not totally destroy the house of Jacob,”
Declares the Lord.
9 “For behold, I am commanding,
And I will shake the house of Israel among all nations
As grain is shaken in a sieve,
But not a kernel will fall to the ground.
10 “All the sinners of My people will die by the sword,
Those who say, ‘The calamity will not overtake or confront us.’

Now, God DID destroy the kingdoms of both Israel & Judah, but He has yet to restore Israel & He hasn't completely restored Judah.

Now, no one with a licka sense can deny the Jews are the most-persecuted people of all time who still survive as a distinct people. They've received much more punishment than the rest of Israel because of their rejection od Jesus. While the other tribes have lost their national identity for now, they've generally lived much-more pleasant lives than most of the Jews have,. Now, some of you can deny this til your keyboards melt, but you CANNOT change the TRUTH, which is derived from SCRIPTURE, & not some notion of man's.

Plainly, God said He's gonna restore all Israel to GREATNESS, and, unlike some here, I TAKE GOD AT HIS WORD![/COLOR]

 

[Yeshua1]

HORSE FEATHERS!

Jews are still Jews, & it's quite evident God has NOT yet removed all unbelievers in Jesus from among them! While most Jews today cannot trace their genealogies back to OT times, many can trace it back to Roman times, and they ARE the descendants of those Jews who were absitively, posolutely Jews.

Satan would have you believe God couldn't keep His promises to Israel & Judah & therefore allowed them to be absorbed into other peoples. But GOD said otherwise in Amos 9...

“Behold, the eyes of the Lord God are on the sinful kingdom,
And I will destroy it from the face of the earth;
Nevertheless, I will not totally destroy the house of Jacob,”
Declares the Lord.
9 “For behold, I am commanding,
And I will shake the house of Israel among all nations
As grain is shaken in a sieve,
But not a kernel will fall to the ground.
10 “All the sinners of My people will die by the sword,
Those who say, ‘The calamity will not overtake or confront us.’

Now, God DID destroy the kingdoms of both Israel & Judah, but He has yet to restore Israel & He hasn't completely restored Judah.

Now, no one with a licka sense can deny the Jews are the most-persecuted people of all time who still survive as a distinct people. They've received much more punishment than the rest of Israel because of their rejection od Jesus. While the other tribes have lost their national identity for now, they've generally lived much-more pleasant lives than most of the Jews have,. Now, some of you can deny this til your keyboards melt, but you CANNOT change the TRUTH, which is derived from SCRIPTURE, & not some notion of man's.

Plainly, God said He's gonna restore all Israel to GREATNESS, and, unlike some here, I TAKE GOD AT HIS WORD![/COLOR]

Interesting that Jews no longer exist, just Gentiles, but paul called them Jews still after the Cross!

 

[Covenanter]

The nation of Israel today is actually the nation of JUDAH. The Jews consist of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi. but God said He will make the nation of israel whole again, re-joining the Jews to the rest of the tribes. Here's the Scriptural proof from Ezekiel 37:


15 Again the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 16 “As for you, son of man, take a stick for yourself and write on it: ‘For Judah and for the children of Israel, his companions.’ Then take another stick and write on it, ‘For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel, his companions.’ 17 Then join them one to another for yourself into one stick, and they will become one in your hand.

18 “And when the children of your people speak to you, saying, ‘Will you not show us what you mean by these?’— 19 say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will join them with it, with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they will be one in My hand.” ’ 20 And the sticks on which you write will be in your hand before their eyes.

21 “Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; 22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again.

These verses follow the famous vision of the bones coming together, etc., which God says represents the WHOLE nation of Israel.

I believe these Scriptures are pretty plain about what God is gonna do with Israel and Judah. people may guess & speculate about these things, but as for me, I will ACCEPT GOD'S WORDS AS WRITTEN, & not try to add nor subtract any other meanings from them.

Ezekiel was prophesying to the desolate exiled Israelites, prophesying their return. That took place after 70 years as prophesied by Jeremiah who also prophesied to the exiles. Sadly they did not return in faith & soon gave up rebuilding the temple.

Like the other prophets, Ezekiel is looking beyond the return to Jerusalem to the coming of the Messiah & all that he would accomplish.

 

[1689Dave]

HORSE FEATHERS!

Jews are still Jews, & it's quite evident God has NOT yet removed all unbelievers in Jesus from among them! While most Jews today cannot trace their genealogies back to OT times, many can trace it back to Roman times, and they ARE the descendants of those Jews who were absitively, posolutely Jews.

Satan would have you believe God couldn't keep His promises to Israel & Judah & therefore allowed them to be absorbed into other peoples. But GOD said otherwise in Amos 9...

“Behold, the eyes of the Lord God are on the sinful kingdom,
And I will destroy it from the face of the earth;
Nevertheless, I will not totally destroy the house of Jacob,”
Declares the Lord.
9 “For behold, I am commanding,
And I will shake the house of Israel among all nations
As grain is shaken in a sieve,
But not a kernel will fall to the ground.
10 “All the sinners of My people will die by the sword,
Those who say, ‘The calamity will not overtake or confront us.’

Now, God DID destroy the kingdoms of both Israel & Judah, but He has yet to restore Israel & He hasn't completely restored Judah.

Now, no one with a licka sense can deny the Jews are the most-persecuted people of all time who still survive as a distinct people. They've received much more punishment than the rest of Israel because of their rejection od Jesus. While the other tribes have lost their national identity for now, they've generally lived much-more pleasant lives than most of the Jews have,. Now, some of you can deny this til your keyboards melt, but you CANNOT change the TRUTH, which is derived from SCRIPTURE, & not some notion of man's.

Plainly, God said He's gonna restore all Israel to GREATNESS, and, unlike some here, I TAKE GOD AT HIS WORD![/COLOR]

In Romans 11 God removed the physical unbelieving Jews from Israel. Paul says, for the father's sake, God will reattach those who believe in Christ. If faith in Christ is the means of being reattached, who does he reattach them to if not Israel?

 

[1689Dave]

MMRRPP! MOSTLY WRONG!

While the Jews are Caucasians, they're still a DISTINCT PEOPLE, and are once again a NATION.While there are non-Jewish citizens of Israel, it's a JEWISH nation. The jews are the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, & Levi. & they are still part of God's "peculiar" people. There's a good deal of prophecy concerning Israel & Judah that's yet to be fulfilled. While the Bible is a Jesys0centric work, it's still largely the history of Israel and Judah,

The idea that God has replaced Israel with the Church is phony as a Chevy Mustang, same as the idea there's no more Jewish people. Remember, God said He's gonna merge Judah with israel again, back into one nation. While we don't now know who the rest of the Israelis are, GOD KNOWS, & He will reveal it when His time comes.

Circumcision made one a Jew and a member of Israel. When Jesus abolished circumcision, only believers were left who followed Christ the Messiah. God will graft any of the broken off back into Israel through faith in Christ (Romans 11).

 

[robycop3]

Circumcision made one a Jew and a member of Israel. When Jesus abolished circumcision, only believers were left who followed Christ the Messiah. God will graft any of the broken off back into Israel through faith in Christ (Romans 11).

Poppycock!

I was circumcised shortly after birth, , but I am not a Jew. It was more an issue of making cleanliness easier. A Jew is still a Jew by birth, same as always ever since Judah fathered his first child. Nothing you can say will change Scripture.

And remember, JESUS HIMSELF WAS CIRCUMCISED!

And the "tree" is the TRUE CHURCH. remember, Paul called gentiles branches of a wild olive tree which were grafted onto a good tree, while calling the Jews the NATURAL branches. Remember, Jesus came FIRST TO THE JEW, then, to gentiles And he sent His disciples to the "LOST SHEEP" OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL, that is, to the other tribes of Israel, wherever they were at that time. NOWHERE does Scripture say Israel and Judah will become extinct!!!!!!!!!!!! Instead, it says God will RESTORE them & make them GREAT.

I don't know who falsely taught you that the Jews are extinct, but a pox upon that charlatan, whoever it was!

 

[1689Dave]

Poppycock!

I was circumcised shortly after birth, , but I am not a Jew. It was more an issue of making cleanliness easier. A Jew is still a Jew by birth, same as always ever since Judah fathered his first child. Nothing you can say will change Scripture.

And remember, JESUS HIMSELF WAS CIRCUMCISED!

And the "tree" is the TRUE CHURCH. remember, Paul called gentiles branches of a wild olive tree which were grafted onto a good tree, while calling the Jews the NATURAL branches. Remember, Jesus came FIRST TO THE JEW, then, to gentiles And he sent His disciples to the "LOST SHEEP" OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL, that is, to the other tribes of Israel, wherever they were at that time. NOWHERE does Scripture say Israel and Judah will become extinct!!!!!!!!!!!! Instead, it says God will RESTORE them & make them GREAT.

I don't know who falsely taught you that the Jews are extinct, but a pox upon that charlatan, whoever it was!

Circumcision was a Jewish rite. Not gentile. Any not circumcised was excommunicated and remained a gentile.

 

[Yeshua1]

Circumcision was a Jewish rite. Not gentile. Any not circumcised was excommunicated and remained a gentile.

There are physical Jews, born after the flesh, and spiritual ones, who have received Jesus as their Messiah!
Still remained jews...