Israel

[Revmitchell]

Those who believe in a future for national Israel for Israel & the Jews according to Old Covenant prophecy, claim it must be future - to us - not just future at the time of writing. However, Jesus asserted that he himself was the fulfilment of OC prophecy:

Luke 24:25 Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?” 27 And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.
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44 Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.” 45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.

46 Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And you are witnesses of these things.49 Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high.”​

There is not one single iota, jot, or tittle, about there not being a future for Israel.

 

[percho]

I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. From Romans 11:1,2 KJV
Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. Amos 3:1,2 KJV
What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear, unto this day. Romans 11:7,8

Maybe the better question might be; Why is God saving in this manner?

Acts 15:18 KJV Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

Let me ask a question.

Hosea 1:9,10 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God. Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

Did Paul believe, "them," were no longer, "them"? Is it God who is electing his children as believers or we electing to be his children by our work of believing?

 

[Covenanter]

There is not one single iota, jot, or tittle, about there not being a future for Israel.

That we would all agree - Israel has been rejoicing in the realisation of God's promises through her Messiah since Pentecost. Many thousands of Jews came to a living, saving faith in Jesus from all round the Roman Empire & beyond as recorded in Acts, & there is no reason to suppose they stopped believing in the following generations down the millennia.

I certainly do not think that God abandoned Abraham's descendants for 60-100 generations as seems to be implied by the OP. Christian Jews are not identifiable as Jews - they've been long identified simply as Christians & share all God's Covenant promises with all God's redeemed people.

As God declared:

Deut. 7:9 “Therefore know that the Lord your God, He is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and mercy for a thousand generations with those who love Him and keep His commandments; 10 and He repays those who hate Him to their face, to destroy them. He will not be slack with him who hates Him; He will repay him to his face.​

But did the Jewish believers maintain their separate Jewish identity? At first they reluctantly associated with Gentile believers as they were guided by the Holy Spirit. Then into spiritual unity with them, though warning the Gentiles not to give offence to their Jewish brothers. (Acts 15.)

It would seem from Acts that the Jewish believers were excluded from the synagogues by the unbelieving Jews. e.g.

Acts 18:5 When Silas and Timothy had come from Macedonia, Paul was compelled by the Spirit, and testified to the Jews thatJesus is the Christ. 6 But when they opposed him and blasphemed, he shook his garments and said to them, “Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.” 7 And he departed from there and entered the house of a certain man named Justus, one who worshiped God, whose house was next door to the synagogue. 8 Then Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his household. And many of the Corinthians, hearing, believed and were baptized.​

The attempt by the Christian Pharisees to maintain a separate Jewish church with Gentiles becoming Jewish proselytes was rejected at the Acts 15 conference, though it seems, e.g. from Gal. 2 that James did not follow through the decision & sought to maintain separation. It would have been easy to maintain a Jewish congregation in Jerusalem, but that would would not be possible elsewhere.

Let me ask a question.

Hosea 1:9,10 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God. Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Yeare the sons of the living God.

Did Paul believe, "them," were no longer, "them"? Is it God who is electing his children as believers or we electing to be his children by our work of believing?

Both Peter & Paul claim the Hosea prophecy applies to the Gentile believers, without excluding Jewish believers.

Rom. 9:22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As He says also in Hosea:
“I will call them My people, who were not My people, And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
26 “And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’ There they shall be called sons of the living God.”

1 Peter 2:7 Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient,
“The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone,”
8 and “A stone of stumbling And a rock of offense.”
They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.​

Of course the Jews, the descendants of Abraham are in no way rejected. They are welcomed by the Gospel of salvation through the LORD Jesus Christ.

There is still the question as to whether those who claim to be Jews, but reject the Gospel can claim the Old Covenant promises, particularly as the Old Covenant came to an end:

Heb. 8:13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.​

From John the baptist onwards, claims to privilege on the basis of descent from Abraham were rejected. Circumcision of the heart was recognised by Moses & the prophets. Deut. 10:16, 30:6, Jer. 4:4.

And with the Gospel, the promised land becomes the New Heaven & New Earth, a much more glorious & vast territory. The patriarchs understood this:

Heb. 11:8 By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9 By faith he dwelt in the land of promise as in a foreign country, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise; 10 for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
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13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them,embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14 For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. 15 And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.​

God can fulfill all his OC promises to Abraham by his Seed, the LORD Jesus Christ, without separating out ethnic Jews for an earthly kingdom.

Gal. 3 makes that clear.

 

[xlsdraw]

The op is anti-semetic garbage

I don't think you read ALL of his long posts. He is clearly not anti-semetic. He used excerpts of anti-semetics and refuted them.

 

[xlsdraw]

I suggest, that we Gentiles, study and meditate earnestly on Roman chapters 9-11. God purposely chose and sent Paul, the educated and converted Orthodox Jew, with authority as our Apostle. "I am the apostle of the Gentiles". He warns explicitly against what I am seeing in this thread. We are branches of wild olives grafted in to the root of the olive tree. So many do not grasp the concept of partial blindness to the Jews during this age of Grace that Paul beautifully presents and the Mercy thereby we should hold in our hearts toward those blinded by God. Try to visualize a sibling with Autism. Would you hold that sibling to the same standard as you who are whole? Neither do many appreciate and grasp the total concept and importance of the wrestling of Jacob/Israel with the angel. "And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of Jacob's thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him. And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou, power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." As the OP stated, Revelations reveals that 144,000 Jews will be sealed during the coming Great Tribulation throughout the earth and will not bow to the Antichrist, drawing on the strength of Jacob established long ago in that holy wrestling match.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

THE ZIONIST ISRAEL-WORSHIPPING AMERICAN CHURCH?!
By John Henry
June 7, 2017
(Part 1)​

Excerpts From An Anti-Israel Preacher:

"Modern Zionism and Talmudic Judaism are nothing more than the Phariseeism of the New Testament. And it is just as evil now as it was then; and never forget that Neoconism is mostly owned and operated by Zionism and Talmudic Judaism. By worshipping Zionist Israel, the modern Church is actually worshipping in the 'synagogue of Satan.' (Rev. 2:9; 3:9)"

"[For pro-Israel American Christian's] loyalty does not reside in America; it resides in the modern state of Israel--a nation that has absolutely NOTHING to do with Biblical Israel. Their erroneous interpretation of Genesis 12 has created a climate of war and hatred that is tearing the soul out of America. All of these perpetual wars that are being fomented in the Middle East are done in the name of Genesis 12 ..."

"[T]he misinterpretation of Genesis 12 causes them to say, 'Support Israel no matter what.' [This] position [is] not only unscriptural, [it's] very dangerous to America."

Are these excerpts scripturally factual?

Some adamantly teach that God is finished with the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the last of whom God renamed, Israel! Is this teaching really true?! What Almighty God says about it?


The Almighty's Promise To Abraham, Isaac & Jacob:

Genesis 12:1-3: "Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy fathers house, unto a land that I will shew thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and IN THEE SHALL ALL FAMILIES OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED."

Genesis 13:14-17: "And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: 15 FOR ALL THE LAND WHICH THOU SEEST, TO THEE WILL I GIVE IT, AND TO THY SEED FOR EVER. 16 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered. Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it unto thee."

Genesis 15:5-6: "And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. 6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness."

Genesis 17:1-8: "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. 2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. 3 And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, 4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. 5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. 6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee. 7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for AN EVERLASTING COVENANT, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. 8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, ALL THE LAND OF CANAAN, FOR AN EVERLASTING POSSESSION; and I will be their God." (Note: The land of Canaan is the area of modern Israel.)

Genesis 21:5-12: "And Abraham was an hundred years old, when his son Isaac was born unto him. 6 And Sarah said, God hath made me to laugh, so that all that hear will laugh with me. 7 And she said, Who would have said unto Abraham, that Sarah should have given children suck? for I have born him a son in his old age. 8 And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned. 9 And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking. 10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac. 11 And the thing was very grievous in Abrahams sight because of his son. 12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for IN ISAAC SHALL THY SEED BE CALLED." (cf. Rom. 9:7; Heb. 11:18)

Genesis 22:1-2, 6-18: "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am. 2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. . . . 6 And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together. 7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? 8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together. 9 And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham built an altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar upon the wood. 10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. 11 And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I. 12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me. 13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. 14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen. 15 And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, 16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; 18 AND IN THY SEED SHALL ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED; because thou hast obeyed my voice." (Note: The Land of Moriah is where Jerusalem stands today. The mountain spoken of in verse 2 is either Temple Mount [2 Chron. 3:1] or Calvary near it where the Lord Jesus gave His life for us, most likely the latter.)

I like this....thumbs up!

 

[kyredneck]

There is not one single iota, jot, or tittle, about there not being a future for Israel.

???

19 ... Let there be no fruit from thee henceforward for ever.... Mt 21

20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye saints, and ye apostles, and ye prophets; for God hath judged your judgment on her.
21 And a strong angel took up a stone as it were a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with a mighty fall shall Babylon, the great city, be cast down, and shall be found no more at all.
22 And the voice of harpers and minstrels and flute-players and trumpeters shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft, shall be found any more at all in thee; and the voice of a mill shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23 and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the princes of the earth; for with thy sorcery were all the nations deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that have been slain upon the earth. Rev 18

 

[kyredneck]

The church and Israel are distinct.

???

You're insisting on the distinction of two entities when the scriptures plainly say there's only one:

14 For he is our peace, who made both one, and brake down the middle wall of partition,
15 having abolished in the flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; that he might create in himself of the two one new man, so making peace; Eph 2

For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Cor 12:13

God no longer makes any distinction:

And the Spirit bade me go with them, making no distinction...Acts 11:12

and he made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith. Acts 15:9

even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ unto all them that believe; for there is no distinction; Ro 3:22

For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek: for the same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich unto all that call upon him: Ro 9:12

For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek: for the same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich unto all that call upon him: Ro 10:12

where there cannot be Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, bondman, freeman; but Christ is all, and in all. Col 3:11

There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female; for ye all are one man in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:28

 

[HankD]

???

You're insisting on the distinction of two entities when the scriptures plainly say there's only one:

14 For he is our peace, who made both one, and brake down the middle wall of partition,
15 having abolished in the flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; that he might create in himself of the two one new man, so making peace; Eph 2

For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Cor 12:13

God no longer makes any distinction:

And the Spirit bade me go with them, making no distinction...Acts 11:12

and he made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith. Acts 15:9

even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ unto all them that believe; for there is no distinction; Ro 3:22

For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek: for the same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich unto all that call upon him: Ro 9:12

For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek: for the same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich unto all that call upon him: Ro 10:12

where there cannot be Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, bondman, freeman; but Christ is all, and in all. Col 3:11

There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female; for ye all are one man in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:28

Disagree There is no distinction in persons there is a distinction in organization.

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

HankD

 

[Covenanter]

I like this....thumbs up!

How much of that OP quote do you like - did you read it all?
Pro- or anti-Israel ?

 

[Covenanter]

Disagree There is no distinction in persons there is a distinction in organization.

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

HankD

Paul is writing with regard to Jewish food laws & pagan customs so he writes:

31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God, 33 just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.​

Our behaviour as Christians should not give gratuitous offence to Jews or Gentiles, whether fellow Christians of unbelievers. He is not making a prophetic statement.

 

[HankD]

Paul is writing with regard to Jewish food laws & pagan customs so he writes:

31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God, 33 just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.​

Our behaviour as Christians should not give gratuitous offence to Jews or Gentiles, whether fellow Christians of unbelievers. He is not making a prophetic statement.

1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

The scope goes well beyond food, drink, customs "whatsoever ye do"

In addition the blanket statement still correctly classifies the 3 organizational entities.

HankD

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

How much of that OP quote do you like - did you read it all?
Pro- or anti-Israel ?

I liked it because it starts a discussion. As for me, I recognize Israels right to exist....as do I recognize the Palestinians right to exist.

 

[Covenanter]

I liked it because it starts a discussion. As for me, I recognize Israels right to exist....as do I recognize the Palestinians right to exist.

Do you recognise the situation in the "promised land" as related to prophecy or simply, or of no prophetic significance?

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Disagree There is no distinction in persons there is a distinction in organization.

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

HankD

I think you misinterpret the text, brother. We are to give offense to no one: not unconverted Jews, nor unconverted Gentiles, nor the church of God which includes converted Jews and converted Gentiles (Ephesians 2:19-22).

 

[HankD]

I think you misinterpret the text, brother. We are to give offense to no one: not unconverted Jews, nor unconverted Gentiles, nor the church of God which includes converted Jews and converted Gentiles (Ephesians 2:19-22).

Converted Jews after Pentecost are part of the church distinct from Jews (practicing synagogue Jews or otherwise) or Gentiles.

HankD

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Do you recognise the situation in the "promised land" as related to prophecy or simply, or of no prophetic significance?

The latter

 

[robycop3]

"Replacement theology", or "supersessionism, is horse feathers. God made specific promises to physical, literal Israel, which He will keep. We see some of them fulfilled in the re-establishment of the Jewish sovereign nation with Jerusalem as its capital, and Egypt's fear of the land of Judah as per Isaiah 19.

Remember, God's word STANDS. he promised david that his dynasty would never end, even if his descendants sinned, which God knew they would God punished them as he said, but He did NOT end the dynasty as He did that of Saul. When He caused Zedekiah to fall to Babylon, and declared Coniah & his descendants ineligible for David's throne, He shifted that throne to other descendants of David's.

And Jesus does NOT have David's throne (rulership) with Himself in heaven right now. He is the nobleman of His parable who went on a long journey to RECEIVE HIS KINGDOM. When He returns, He will take over that throne, which is still on earth.

And thus shall it be with Israel. While there are many Israelis & Jews in the Church, Israel and the Church are separate, distinct entities. many of God's promises to Israel & Judah are still to be fulfilled, including the re-joining of Judah to the other tribes. Sound far-fetched or impossible? Well, so did the re-establishment of the sovereign nation of Judah with jerusalem as its capital til it happened!

"With God, ALL things are possible!"

 

[kyredneck]

Disagree There is no distinction in persons there is a distinction in organization.....

Ahhh, Dispyism demonstrated; complicate the simple at every opportunity.

The RE-organization was from TWO to ONE, not three:

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice: and they shall become one flock, one shepherd. Jn 10

14 For he is our peace, who made both one, and brake down the middle wall of partition,
15 having abolished in the flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; that he might create in himself of the two one new man, so making peace; Eph 2

For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Cor 12:13

 

[kyredneck]

"Replacement theology", or "supersessionism, is horse feathers.

41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those miserable men, and will let out the vineyard unto other husbandmen, who shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Mt 21

If that's not being 'replaced', what do you call it?

God made specific promises to physical, literal Israel ...

... a done deal from long ago:

43 So Jehovah gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein.
44 And Jehovah gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; Jehovah delivered all their enemies into their hand.
45 There failed not aught of any good thing which Jehovah had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass. Josh 21

And, behold, this day I am going the way of all the earth: and ye know in all your hearts and in all your souls, that not one thing hath failed of all the good things which Jehovah your God spake concerning you; all are come to pass unto you, not one thing hath failed thereof. Josh 23:14

Blessed be Jehovah, that hath given rest unto his people Israel, according to all that he promised: there hath not failed one word of all his good promise, which he promised by Moses his servant. 1 Ki 8:56

For how many soever be the promises of God, in him is the yea: wherefore also through him is the Amen, unto the glory of God through us. 2 Cor 1:20