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[tinytim]

If this is the new America, stop the world and let me off. I'd threaten to leave the country, but, there is no place to go that isn't already where we are headed.

Secondly, I can't afford it on my small pension. Gee, Tim, I'm being held hostage by an man that has not yet been elected to POTUSA. That is scary, but, appropriate for Halloween????

I was going to dress up as a communist for Halloween but Obama stole my costume... (thanks to whoever sent me that flair on Facebook)

 

[JustChristian]

Thats not an argument. Just look at policies that he espouses. If you can show that by his policies that McCain is a new conservative facist. Then you have an argument. McCain is not a new convervative nor a Facist. McCain struggles with the little about his view that are actually conservative. Usually, people who use the term Neo-Con also throw in Religious nut because those of us who are conservative and religious believe in a high ethical and moral standard.

So you're saying that you espouse the Neo-Con philosophy of American world supremacy through any means?

 

[just-want-peace]

So you're saying that you espouse the Neo-Con philosophy of American world supremacy through any means?

You know, you really should engage your brain before opening your mouth (figuratively speaking, of course:laugh!

I really do wonder if you read a post before responding?????

 

[Thinkingstuff]

So you're saying that you espouse the Neo-Con philosophy of American world supremacy through any means?

Your statement has a couple of problems. First you have no real idea of what a new conservative (Neo-Con) is or believes. First understand what conservatism is. A conservative wants to keep in place certain ideas. For instance a conservative will want to interprete the constitution traditonally or how it was meant originally. The covervatives had a resurgence when many religious (christians) filled their ranks since the Democratic policies moved against traditional family and Christian values.
Your second problem is you think America hasn't already gained world supremacy. We have. The world relies on our economic and view of capitalism. This is why the saying goes when "Wall street gets a cough, the world gets a cold" We are the New English Empire. We're just not established by colonies but by philosophy and business practices.

I'm sorry that the Soviet Union colapse for you. Putin may bring it back you can hope in that. But just don't expect the americans to jump at the idea of having the Politburo rule our country. Nor expect them to want to call you comrade. Americans believe in Liberty not Orwellian government like Obama wants. Keep in mind that Obama helped Odinga bring violence to the Rift Valley which is why Kenya will not entertain american reporters there. He may just be the Manchurian Canidate.

 

[christianyouth]

Well said, Thinkingstuff!

 

[JustChristian]

Your statement has a couple of problems. First you have no real idea of what a new conservative (Neo-Con) is or believes. First understand what conservatism is. A conservative wants to keep in place certain ideas. For instance a conservative will want to interprete the constitution traditonally or how it was meant originally. The covervatives had a resurgence when many religious (christians) filled their ranks since the Democratic policies moved against traditional family and Christian values.
Your second problem is you think America hasn't already gained world supremacy. We have. The world relies on our economic and view of capitalism. This is why the saying goes when "Wall street gets a cough, the world gets a cold" We are the New English Empire. We're just not established by colonies but by philosophy and business practices.

I'm sorry that the Soviet Union colapse for you. Putin may bring it back you can hope in that. But just don't expect the americans to jump at the idea of having the Politburo rule our country. Nor expect them to want to call you comrade. Americans believe in Liberty not Orwellian government like Obama wants. Keep in mind that Obama helped Odinga bring violence to the Rift Valley which is why Kenya will not entertain american reporters there. He may just be the Manchurian Canidate.

Actually I do. Why do you say I don't. I don't think YOU have any idea about what you're saying.

 

[righteousdude2]

But,

:laugh:

I was going to dress up as a communist for Halloween but Obama stole my costume... (thanks to whoever sent me that flair on Facebook)

He redistributed to someone that really needed it more. You did your patrioted duty TT. Stand up and be proud. You are now a true Socialist in the making???:laugh:

 

[Thinkingstuff]

Actually I do. Why do you say I don't. I don't think YOU have any idea about what you're saying.

Again that is an accusation not an argument. My accusation was to imply you want soviet style government and that Obama is your canidate. Accusation. The first paragraph of my statment was an argument. Get in the game.

 

[JustChristian]

Again that is an accusation not an argument. My accusation was to imply you want soviet style government and that Obama is your canidate. Accusation. The first paragraph of my statment was an argument. Get in the game.

There is nothing Soviet about either me or Obama.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

There is nothing Soviet about either me or Obama.

Ok so what is your argument? It is a fact that the report Obama submitted to Odinga in Kenya spurred the Luo tribes into a type of tribal war far to bully the Kikuyu into voting their way or face the consequences which spured violence through out the north west Rift valley area in Kenya. Kenyan Officials are preventing reporter research into this area because, of course, they want Obama to win. Many people were killed during that time. Just read your news reports for Kenya.
Obama wants to Nationalize Health care. Says that the constititution as it is writen is erronious and with that view can disregard it. Obama is a socialist though I am sure he does not have a picture of Lenin or Marx on his wall. Obama things that government needs take care of all our ills. This is a socialist view. Not one popular with the american perspective. What evidence do you have otherwise.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

Here is some info

More than 300 people have died in four days of rioting. In the worst incident, up to 50 ethnic Kikuyus - mostly women and children - were burned alive in a church near the town of Eldoret, in western Kenya. Thousands have also fled their homes. Some fear Kenya is facing its worst crisis since independence in 1963. However, inter-ethnic clashes are common in Kenya, especially at election time. In 1992 some 1,500 people died in fighting in the Rift Valley region. Five years later, another 200 were killed, mainly in fighting in the country's second city, Mombasa.

Is the violence along tribal lines?
Much of the resentment has been directed towards the Kikuyus, Kenya's largest ethnic group, which makes up 22% of the population. President Mwai Kibaki, who was announced as the election winner and hastily sworn in on Sunday evening, is a Kikuyu. The opposition leader, Raila Odinga, is a Luo, from western Kenya near Lake Victoria on the border with Uganda. Odinga's Nairobi constituency, Langata, includes one of Africa's largest slums where he enjoys strong Luo support. In the presidential vote, Kibaki received very few votes in the Luo areas, while Odinga, received only a very small percentage of the Kikuyu vote. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/02/kenya

Obama’s partisan support for Odinga was considered so transparent, that the Kenyan Government spokesman, Alfred Matua, complained of political posturing to aid Odinga’s election chances: “It is very clear that the senator has been used as a puppet to perpetuate opposition politics,”(“

 

[rbell]

There is nothing Soviet about either me or Obama.

"From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need."
- Karl Marx

That would sure cast suspicions on your man Obama.