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It looks like Republicans are preparing to claim the 2022 Midterm Elections are “Stolen”

Baptist Believer

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Someone placed a flyer on my front door earlier this week with a bunch of reasons I should vote for Republicans in the Midterm elections.

The flyer did not identify who created and distributed the flyer, but it urged our household to vote, and to vote on Election Day if at possible.

In many places, the votes on Election Day are counter first, then early and mail-in votes. If the majority of Republicans vote on Election Day, then it can appear that Republicans have a lead in early counting before a more representative sample of votes from early votes are counted.

This was former President Trump’s strategy in 2020, designed to make it look like he was “winning” until the rest of the votes were counted. Then, of course, he demanded that the elections representatives stop counting votes (“stop voting”) and made his claim that the election was stolen.

The same rhetoric is happening now, where Republican true believers feel, with complete confidence, that Republicans will take control of the House and possibly the Senate. However, that is far from certain.

Tucker Carlson made the following claim earlier this week about the Arizona election:

“This is a democracy, we have an absolute right to have it proven to us, that the election was fair. If it is fair, Kari Lake’s going to win”​

As a Christian, what will be “proof” that your elections were fair?

As a Christian, can you accept the possibility that your preferred candidate may not win in a truly fair election?

As a Christian, are you sufficiently engaged with people who do not share your belief systems and political opinions to realize that not everyone thinks the way you do?
 

KenH

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Fortunately, God is totally absolutely sovereign so no one wins an election, however it takes place, unless it is ordained by God to happen.

To paraphrase Proverbs 16:33 - The votes are cast, but every result is from the LORD.
 

37818

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I sense three different outlooks.

What I have never understood are Christians who vote Democrat. And I am not of any party.
 

KenH

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What I have never understood are Christians who vote Democrat.

One could also say the same thing about never understanding Christians who vote Republican or for any party or any candidate.

Every member of a political party is a sinful, fallen human being voting being voted for by other sinful, fallen human beings.

Whether it is by voting or my monarchy or by armed dictatorship or whatever method, the only people who become rulers are those ordained by God. We could use a game of high card and the result would be the same. People get WAY too hung up on the means instead of bowing to the source of the decision - a totally absolutely God. And I would not want to be in a situation other than God being totally absolutely sovereign.

It makes humans feel better when they can vote because they mistakenly presume that they are making the difference.
 

Van

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Yet another lefty thread casting aspersions upon freedom loving people. The party of JFK, FDR and the buck stops here Truman is long gone, now the party is the blame everyone else party and the deny they caused high gas prices and consequent inflation party. And let's not talk about how much of a train-wreck of our economy it will take to derail run-a-way inflation.
 

37818

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One could also say the same thing about never understanding Christians who vote Republican or for any party or any candidate.

Every member of a political party is a sinful, fallen human being voting being voted for by other sinful, fallen human beings.

Whether it is by voting or my monarchy or by armed dictatorship or whatever method, the only people who become rulers are those ordained by God. We could use a game of high card and the result would be the same. People get WAY too hung up on the means instead of bowing to the source of the decision - a totally absolutely God. And I would not want to be in a situation other than God being totally absolutely sovereign.

It makes humans feel better when they can vote because they mistakenly presume that they are making the difference.
So are you opposed to Christians voting?
 

Salty

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I would say that Dems will be saying the election was stolen.
1) historically, the Presidents party looses many seats in Mid term.
2) Biden approval 42 -- Disapproval 55
3) Inflation - 8+% --Based on a standard, modern macroeconomic model calibrated to U.S. data, they estimate the optimal inflation rate to be 0.7 to 1.4 percent per year
One moment, please...
4) Many are getting tired of the 6 Jan House committee
 

Salty

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Lower courts who looked at the evidence are not good enough? It has to be the Supreme Court?

Depends - the SCOTUS could decide not to accept the case - and then the lower court ruling stands.

Fderal courts of appeals routinely handle more than 50,000 cases each year. Ten percent or fewer of those decisions are appealed to the Supreme Court, which in turn hears oral arguments in fewer than 100 cases annually.

Selection of cases Each year, the court receives approximately 9,000–10,000 petitions for certiorari, of which about 1% (approximately 80–100), are granted plenary review with oral arguments, and an additional 50 to 60 are disposed of without plenary review.
 

Guvnuh

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Dems have protested each election since 2004. Except Obama’s and Biden. Yet they accuse Repubs of not believing in the system.
Face it, like Jeremiah we will most likely witness the judgment coming to our nation.

I vote and will continue to vote, but I don’t trust 90 percent of them to actually govern in the best interest our nation. Too much money and power to hold.
 

canadyjd

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Someone placed a flyer on my front door earlier this week with a bunch of reasons I should vote for Republicans in the Midterm elections.

The flyer did not identify who created and distributed the flyer, but it urged our household to vote, and to vote on Election Day if at possible.

In many places, the votes on Election Day are counter first, then early and mail-in votes. If the majority of Republicans vote on Election Day, then it can appear that Republicans have a lead in early counting before a more representative sample of votes from early votes are counted.

This was former President Trump’s strategy in 2020, designed to make it look like he was “winning” until the rest of the votes were counted. Then, of course, he demanded that the elections representatives stop counting votes (“stop voting”) and made his claim that the election was stolen.

The same rhetoric is happening now, where Republican true believers feel, with complete confidence, that Republicans will take control of the House and possibly the Senate. However, that is far from certain.

Tucker Carlson made the following claim earlier this week about the Arizona election:

“This is a democracy, we have an absolute right to have it proven to us, that the election was fair. If it is fair, Kari Lake’s going to win”​

As a Christian, what will be “proof” that your elections were fair?

As a Christian, can you accept the possibility that your preferred candidate may not win in a truly fair election?

As a Christian, are you sufficiently engaged with people who do not share your belief systems and political opinions to realize that not everyone thinks the way you do?
I will answer your questions directly and then I would appreciate it if you would answer mine.

First, the elections aren’t mine. I will believe the elections are fair, and accept the results, win or lose, if the election laws are followed.

I do understand many people, probably most most people do not think exactly like I do or have the same values on ever issue that I do.

I do not find “sufficient engagement” to be the goal of the liberals. They demand conformity, if they can’t get conformity they demand silence, if they can’t get silence they demand the destruction of your life.

Now my question to you.

Can you understand why many people looked at the 2020 election and saw many violations of election laws (such as ignoring voter ID for in person and mail in ballots), suspicious activity (such as 6 states stopping the vote counting at almost the same time claiming no more bill it’s would be counted until the next day sending monitors home and then then only Dems continuing the counting through the night, deliveries of ballots with no chain of custody etc….?

I will say this again, once the State legislatures certified the results and sent electors to congress, Trump should have conceded. The election was over.

But that doesn’t mean the election didn’t stink of corruption.

peace to you
 

Van

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One of the ways I use to evaluate the "rightness" of an advocacy group is to consider their use of compulsion. The bible teaches it is better to be free than slave, so those that use compulsion rather than persuasion are suspect. Jesus taught do unto others as you would want them to do unto you.

1) Who are those that use "mandates" to compel others?

2) Who are those that used censorship to silence discussion of Hunter's laptop?

3) Why does it seem the DOJ has one set of rules for fellow Leftists, and another for conservatives? Did you see hearings on the BLM insurrectionists?
 

Revmitchell

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It is a ridiculous notion that Republican votes come in early and then Democrat votes follow. There is no history that allows such an idea. It is fake news and misinformation that allows the appearance of manufactured votes to come in late so they know just how many are needed to win. This last presidential election is an example of the latter not the former. The DNC sends their operatives our a head of time to spread this false narrative as a means to soften the blow when they manufacture their votes. They believe they got away with it this last election so now they are more bold in their evil work this time. And those that purport this kind of public lie should be ashamed.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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It is a ridiculous notion that Republican votes come in early and then Democrat votes follow. There is no history that allows such an idea. It is fake news and misinformation that allows the appearance of manufactured votes to come in late so they know just how many are needed to win. This last presidential election is an example of the latter not the former. The DNC sends their operatives our a head of time to spread this false narrative as a means to soften the blow when they manufacture their votes. They believe they got away with it this last election so now they are more bold in their evil work this time. And those that purport this kind of public lie should be ashamed.
Even according to their own, it is untrue. See link below.

“Of the states that record party registration, the U.S. Elections Project shows more Democrats have voted early this cycle -- 52.3% compared to only 31.1 % of Republicans.”

A big concern is their anonymous ballot drops. Until their abuse of that is corrected nationwide, elections will remain highly suspect.

Democrats Outpacing Republicans in the Early Vote
 

Reynolds

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Someone placed a flyer on my front door earlier this week with a bunch of reasons I should vote for Republicans in the Midterm elections.

The flyer did not identify who created and distributed the flyer, but it urged our household to vote, and to vote on Election Day if at possible.

In many places, the votes on Election Day are counter first, then early and mail-in votes. If the majority of Republicans vote on Election Day, then it can appear that Republicans have a lead in early counting before a more representative sample of votes from early votes are counted.

This was former President Trump’s strategy in 2020, designed to make it look like he was “winning” until the rest of the votes were counted. Then, of course, he demanded that the elections representatives stop counting votes (“stop voting”) and made his claim that the election was stolen.

The same rhetoric is happening now, where Republican true believers feel, with complete confidence, that Republicans will take control of the House and possibly the Senate. However, that is far from certain.

Tucker Carlson made the following claim earlier this week about the Arizona election:

“This is a democracy, we have an absolute right to have it proven to us, that the election was fair. If it is fair, Kari Lake’s going to win”​

As a Christian, what will be “proof” that your elections were fair?

As a Christian, can you accept the possibility that your preferred candidate may not win in a truly fair election?

As a Christian, are you sufficiently engaged with people who do not share your belief systems and political opinions to realize that not everyone thinks the way you do?
The Dems all said the 2016 election was stolen and that Trump was an "illegitimate President.". Stacey Abrams shouted Ga was stolen by Kemp for two years after she got beat.
 
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