It's a mad, mad mad mad world?

[Rolfe]

I can't afford the 30 points. Maybe you can get one of the folks in the preferred posters club to do it. :smilewinkgrin:

What if I dared you? :tongue3:

 

[poncho]

What if I dared you? :tongue3:

No way I'm not allowed to use that word. Dare one of the "untouchables" instead.

 

[righteousdude2]

The only reason WE don't have the power to change things is because guys like you keep telling us WE don't have the power to change things.

If sounding off about problems without the power to bring about change is "an exercise in pure futility" then you've already wasted several hundred hours here exercising in pure futility.

For certain sure WE aren't going to change things by ignoring problems or worse yet defending the very people causing the problems with OUR silence.

BTW, I used the word "hypocrite" once. I got a permanent 10 point infraction for it.

You shouldn't have to worry about it though. You aren't me. :type:

Ponch, what kind of power are you seeking to change things! You are always writing how the powers that be are pulling all the strings. By saying it is futile to change things; I am referring to changing things at the ballot box.

If you are talking a complete revolution like back in the days of Washington and Jefferson, I do not promote that, nor do I see that as a viable way to get change! Thus, we the people are stuck with what we have, and changing political folks to think of the little folks that vote them in, well, that is something that I don't see coming about.

The elected are owned by big corporations, and doing their bidding. They should be doing the bidding of their constituents, but they aren't, so how to you propose a change, and stop with posting links! I'd like to hear your plans, in your own words! Thanks! :flower:

 

[poncho]

Ponch, what kind of power are you seeking to change things! You are always writing how the powers that be are pulling all the strings. By saying it is futile to change things; I am referring to changing things at the ballot box.

WE already have the power. Quit playing the leftie vs rightie game. Wake up the masses to the truth.

If you are talking a complete revolution like back in the days of Washington and Jefferson, I do not promote that, nor do I see that as a viable way to get change! Thus, we the people are stuck with what we have, and changing political folks to think of the little folks that vote them in, well, that is something that I don't see coming about.

WE already have the power. Quit playing the leftie vs rightie game. Wake up the masses to the truth.

The elected are owned by big corporations, and doing their bidding. They should be doing the bidding of their constituents, but they aren't, so how to you propose a change, and stop with posting links! I'd like to hear your plans, in your own words! Thanks! :flower:

WE already have the power. Quit playing the leftie vs rightie game. Wake up the masses to the truth.

If one lone woman can force huge corporations to take harmful substances out of their food products by waking up the masses to the truth imagine what WE could do if WE quit playing the leftie vs rightie game and concentrated OUR efforts on doing the same.

We need a revolution of the mind and it's already underway. Join it or keep being part of the problem by playing the leftie vs rightie game and hoping your next vote at the ballot box is going to change things. You can wait around twiddling your thumbs between elections complaining about this that and the other politicians while hoping that someone will come along to "empower" you or . . .

You can quit playing the leftie vs rightie game and wake up the masses to the truth. If the Food Babe can do it, so can WE.

Step one . . .

Get your mind out of the false left vs right paradigm.

Free your mind and your rear end will follow.

 

[righteousdude2]

Quit playing the leftie vs rightie game. Wake up the masses to the truth.

Quit playing the leftie vs rightie game. Wake up the masses to the truth.

Quit playing the leftie vs rightie game. Wake up the masses to the truth.

If one lone woman can force huge corporations to take harmful substances out of their food products by waking up the masses to the truth imagine what WE could do if WE quit playing the leftie vs rightie game and concentrated OUR efforts on doing the same.

We need a revolution of the mind and it's already underway. Join it or keep being part of the problem by playing the leftie vs rightie game and hoping your next vote at the ballot box is going to change things.

That's my plan. Quit playing the leftie vs rightie game. Wake up the masses to the truth. If the Food Babe can do it, so can WE.

You say I am playing the game! Maybe in reality, it is you? What have you done to change things, Ponch? You can't take credit for the lady you mentioned, that was her doing. None of us can take credit for Kim Davis' stand against gay marriage. I am asking what you are personally doing to change things?

It sounds to me like you have hook your wagon to the exhaust pipe of another and hitched a ride to this mystical revolution of the mind. Sounds like some kind of 50's-60's hippie drug trip! Or more like the infamous Yellow Submarine! :smilewinkgrin:

 

[poncho]

You say I am playing the game! Maybe in reality, it is you? What have you done to change things, Ponch? You can't take credit for the lady you mentioned, that was her doing. None of us can take credit for Kim Davis' stand against gay marriage. I am asking what you are personally doing to change things?

It sounds to me like you have hook your wagon to the exhaust pipe of another and hitched a ride to this mystical revolution of the mind. Sounds like some kind of 50's-60's hippie drug trip! Or more like the infamous Yellow Submarine! :smilewinkgrin:

Sounds to me like you're so addicted to the game you can't free yourself from it.

What am I doing? Well here among this crowd I'm taking a beating from guys like you for trying to free people's minds and wake them up to the truth.

Outside of here I've woke alot of people up. Matter of fact I'm finding few people out here that haven't already pulled their heads out of the sand and started waking others up to the truth. The "alternative" media or the "authentic" media that does tell the truth is booming! The old corporate media is dying. Why? Because people don't have faith in them to tell the truth anymore. Why? Because guys like me are spreading the truth and WE aren't going to let guys like you brow beat us into believing all the same old lies you choose to believe.

Millions of people are awake now.

These are the same people you call names and demonize for not playing the the leftie vs rightie game and voting for another banker puppet like you. That's your "strategy". How's it working? Look around. Your strategy calls for division and being fearful and blaming others for the problems WE helped create, that much is working. Not for the good of the county or the people though.

Hey, look if want to feel powerless that's fine. It's your choice but what gives you the right to try to convince others that they should feel as powerless as you?

Thank you for looking the other way while the corporate elite turn this nation into a big government corporate fascist big brother police state. :applause:

 

[righteousdude2]

The very same "what" that you say empowers you, is enabling me! It is called FREE SPEECH! Or are you against that (free speech) when someone has an opinion contrary to yours? :smilewinkgrin:

 

[poncho]

The very same "what" that you say empowers you, is enabling me! It is called FREE SPEECH! Or are you against that (free speech) when someone has an opinion contrary to yours? :smilewinkgrin:

I'm all for free speech. However when "opinion" is based only on government lies and fear mongering you can expect me to point the lies and fear mongering out.

Look at your words in this thread. You attempted to blame the people fleeing for their lives for the problems the neocons and their never ending regime change policy of divide destroy and conquer has caused.

Your "opinion" is based on government lies and fear mongering. I pointed that out and now you're attempting to hammer me down for it.

Bottom line. The only change you want is to be rid of people that aren't afraid to point out what your "opinion" is actually based on.

 

[righteousdude2]

I'm all for free speech. However when "opinion" is based only on government lies and fear mongering you can expect me to point the lies and fear mongering out.

Look at your words in this thread. You attempted to blame the people fleeing for their lives for the problems the neocons and their never ending regime change policy of divide destroy and conquer has caused.

Your "opinion" is based on government lies and fear mongering. I pointed that out and now you're attempting to hammer me down for it.

Bottom line. The only change you want is to be rid of people that aren't afraid to point out what your "opinion" is based on.

Once again, you asked for my view, I gave it, and now you are inviting me to your pity party? If you don't want the views of others, stop asking! :BangHead:

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[poncho]

Once again, you asked for my view, I gave it, and now you are inviting me to your pity party? If you don't want the views of others, stop asking! :BangHead:

Correction. You asked for my view . . .

Poncho, why discuss things that matter little or nothing to those with the power to change it? To do so is an exercise in futility. And I have much better things to do, like witnessing for Jesus.

Speaking or sounding off about problems is one thing. Discussing them to find solutions is another. And unless we have the power to bring about actual change, it if an exercise in pure futility. Shalom!

You say I am playing the game! Maybe in reality, it is you? What have you done to change things, Ponch? You can't take credit for the lady you mentioned, that was her doing. None of us can take credit for Kim Davis' stand against gay marriage. I am asking what you are personally doing to change things?

It sounds to me like you have hook your wagon to the exhaust pipe of another and hitched a ride to this mystical revolution of the mind. Sounds like some kind of 50's-60's hippie drug trip! Or more like the infamous Yellow Submarine! :smilewinkgrin:

I gave it to you. You didn't like it. And now you're trying real hard to justify your own feelings of inadequacy and transfer them on to me.

Why don't you try the truth for change? Are you afraid people here might treat you like they treat me?

Are you scared to step through that door? Does the prospect of stepping outside the familiar comfort and safety of the false left vs right paradigm and mainstream corporate consensus frighten you?

Booga! Booga! Booga! :laugh: