Its not "Trump supporters" wanting to burn down D.C.

[church mouse guy]

Sure, Corn Pop. I am not a fan of Democrats. I believe they are a cancer to our nation. They hate President Trump because he exposed their agenda for what it is - anti-American rhetoric.

You are a one-trick pony.

 

[JonC]

@church mouse guy ,

Yes, I am a One Trick Pony.

I am a Christian.

 

[church mouse guy]

@church mouse guy ,

Yes, I am a One Trick Pony.

I am a Christian.

you are a one trick pony

 

[JonC]

you are a one trick pony

Déjà vu all over again

Yes, I am a One Trick Pony.

I am a Christian (I am a follower of Jesus).

I am not a fan of Democrats. I believe they are a cancer to our nation. They hate President Trump because he exposed their agenda for what it is - anti-American rhetoric. The GOP establishment is the same way. They are exposed for their hypocrisy.

Trump may not have drained the swamp, but he sure cast a light on all of those swamp creatures.

 

[JonC]

Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters marched in the streets of Washington, D.C., where demonstrators scuffled with police officers and the crowd shouted threats to "burn down" the nation's capital.

BLM and Antifa march in DC, threaten to 'burn down' Washington

What do you think the Biden Administration will do about it?

Probably as much as the DNC wanted done last year....burning downgovernment buildings and businesses, killing a couple dozen people....that is just "peaceful protest".

Of course, let a conservative break a window and it's insurrection.

 

[Scott Downey]

Democrats dont do anything about BLM-ANTIFA, as what they do suits their interests.
And those violent uprisings all happen in Democrat controlled cities.

They demand change, and the democrats want to give that to the country, so the uprisings work in the public consciousness as justification for Democrats virtue signaling on social justice and racist tropes.

 

[JonC]

Democrats dont do anything about BLM-ANTIFA, as what they do suits their interests.
And those violent uprisings all happen in Democrat controlled cities.

They demand change, and the democrats want to give that to the country, so the uprisings work in the public consciousness as justification for Democrats virtue signaling on social justice and racist tropes.

I agree....except with Antifa. I do not see Antifa just going with the administration because it has changed hands. They have been, and I suspect will continue to be, anti-establishment. But the Democrat party did nothing when the Trump administration was in power (which led some to the error of believing Antifa...despite what it has claimed....was pro-DNC). I think that BLM is different. The DNC has been engrained in BLM from the start as the Democrat party is the party of racism. It seeks power by exploiting minorities and social injustice.

 

[Scott Downey]

I agree....except with Antifa. I do not see Antifa just going with the administration because it has changed hands. They have been, and I suspect will continue to be, anti-establishment. But the Democrat party did nothing when the Trump administration was in power (which led some to the error of believing Antifa...despite what it has claimed....was pro-DNC). I think that BLM is different. The DNC has been engrained in BLM from the start as the Democrat party is the party of racism. It seeks power by exploiting minorities and social injustice.

Democrats say Antifa is not an organization, just an idea.
Biden Says Antifa Is ‘An Idea, Not An Organization’ during Presidential Debate

very irresponsible of democrats to not admit it is an organized group, although BLM may be better organized than Antifa.
Antifa's actions still serve the democrat party desire to bring social change to the front, to make an average American think so many disaffected people must have real grievances against the system that only democrats can fix idea. You create the fake crisis where there should be none, then you force an arbitration to compel society into accommodations

How many people though really understand that both these groups want a revolution, tear apart the US and remake everything.
We should not be accommodating anything Antifa or BLM wants, both are evil groups pushing evil things that most people dont want to see happen. Recent polls are coming out strongly against socialism, and both those groups want to push much farther than socialism.

 

[JonC]

Democrats say Antifa is not an organization, just an idea.
Biden Says Antifa Is ‘An Idea, Not An Organization’ during Presidential Debate

very irresponsible of democrats to not admit it is an organized group, although BLM may be better organized than Antifa.
Antifa's actions still serve the democrat party desire to bring social change to the front, to make an average American think so many disaffected people must have real grievances against the system that only democrats can fix idea. You create the fake crisis where there should be none, then you force an arbitration to compel society into accommodations

How many people though really understand that both these groups want a revolution, tear apart the US and remake everything.
We should not be accommodating anything Antifa or BLM wants, both are evil groups pushing evil things that most people dont want to see happen. Recent polls are coming out strongly against socialism, and both those groups want to push much farther than socialism.

Yes, but I believe that was largely because of the Trump administration (it suited the DNC's purposes). Some things do connect (anti-racism, anti-capitalism) but others may become problematic (anti-authoritarianism).

 

[Scott Downey]

Yes, but I believe that was largely because of the Trump administration (it suited the DNC's purposes). Some things do connect (anti-racism, anti-capitalism) but others may become problematic (anti-authoritarianism).

Democrats being high on authoritarianism, and Antifa wants none...I agree Antifa is not on the democrats side, but like the democrats have said never let a crisis go to waste, real or manufactured.
Democrats are very good at fake news to sway weak minded people who already lean their way.
It is why I cant stand watching the MSM nightly news, it is all propaganda driven arm of the LEFT.

 

[Aaron]

This is a completely false statement.

I failed to identify the ones who are really Dems using subterfuge to neutralize arguments. Riding the fence only serves bad politics, so Dems are happy to do it.

I am actually a little surprised as your posts are normally more intelligent and investigative (not that I normally agree, but this is out of character....you normally take take the time to clarify before getting to this point).

One's opinions of me are irrelevant. I serve the truth.

In other words - I am agreeing with former President Trump. They are the swamp...not just the DNC, but D.C. This is what Trump has shown us - even with the GOP. The establishment runs deep. It is a bipartisan corruption that seeks its own power.

B.S. There's a reason anti-Christian extremists gravitate to the Dems and vilify the GOP.

It's not because they're the same.

 

[JonC]

I failed to identify the ones who are really Dems using subterfuge to neutralize arguments. Riding the fence only serves bad politics, so Dems are happy to do it.

One's opinions of me are irrelevant. I serve the truth.

B.S. There's a reason anti-Christian extremists gravitate to the Dems and vilify the GOP.

It's not because they're the same.

Yes, there are reasons anti-Christians gravity to the DNC and "political Christians" gravate to the GOP.

That is my point. They are opposite sides of the same coin.

You are proving my argument, which is scary.

 

[JonC]

I failed to identify the ones who are really Dems using subterfuge to neutralize arguments. Riding the fence only serves bad politics, so Dems are happy to do it.

I agree. There are no "moderate" Democrats or "moderate" Republicans (no fence riders). They are off the fence as soon as they cast their vote.

So riding the fence is very bad politics.

And this is true of Christianity as well. Fence riders IMHO are cowards trying to take a stand with the courage to get on their feet.

As you aptly point out, we cannot serve two masters.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Yes, there are reasons anti-Christians gravity to the DNC and "political Christians" gravate to the GOP. That is my point. They are opposite sides of the same coin....

We seem to diverge here. The Dems seem to comprise those who oppose Christianity and moral principles whether they themselves claim to be Christians or not. The opposite side of that would be those who support Christianity and moral principles whether they themselves claim to be Christians or not.

 

[JonC]

We seem to diverge here. The Dems seem to comprise those who oppose Christianity and moral principles whether they themselves claim to be Christians or not. The opposite side of that would be those who support Christianity and moral principles whether they themselves claim to be Christians or not.

The DNC by the definition of their platform compromises Christians who support that Party. It has to, because regardless of the reason a Christian may vote Democrat they are also supporting the party of the DNC with their vote.

The GOP platform is not, I agree, anti-Christian in what it stands for (perhaps arguments could be made that it is in how it takes that stand and Who it does not stand for.....but that's a different topic).

This is not to say the GOP cannot be dangerous, perhaps more so since it is not an obvious evil, to Christianity. But that is probably the fault of the Christians who would take politics inappropriately rather than the fault of the GOP. Political parties cannot be faulted for looking after their own self-interests. That is a part of their makeup.

 

[Wingman68]

I was looking for a place to put this antifa link, & in doing so found this on the search. It was nice because I got to see old friends again, Aaron & churchmouseguy. Cheers, friends, wherever you are today.

Antifa is whiter than Sheldon Whitehouse’s country club…

So with the crt, & white guilt being the driving force right now, antifa just can’t be a dem fave anymore, but they never turn away useful idiots.

 

[Reynolds]

One thing (probably the only thing) Antifi gets right is the truth that GOP and DNC are different sides of the same coin. The new boss is the same as the old boss. So no, they are no more happy with Biden than they were with Trump.

How so?

 

[JonC]

How so?

They are opposite in that they hold opposing ideologies and agendas. The DNC has adopted the sins of Romans 3 as a platform. In terms of secular morality the GOP maintains what could be called traditional values (at least on the surface). The DNC holds an economic view directly opposite of the GOP. The DNC is culturally liberal while the GOP is conservative. The DNC platform advocates abortion while the GOP is anti-abortion (platforms). The DNC holds a foreign policy that is opposite the policy of the GOP. The DNC is blatantly immoral while the GOP advocates secular morality (probably repetitious...traditional morals that align with traditional religious values). The DNC holds domestic policies that are opposite the GOP. The DNC holds a progressive view of the Constitution while the GOP aligns with a more literal position. The DNC is largely "democratic socialist" while the GOP leans more to a laissez-faire capitalistic economic approach.

I could go on, but I think it is sufficient to say they are opposite.

They are of the same kind. That is, they are opposite sides of the same political system (they are, by definition, secular powers. They are "powers of darkness", or of the "word". The GOP and DNC are, as entities, atheistic. Each depends on the existence of the other for political power. Both seek worldly solutions to "fix" the world or the nation. And both only exist by never reaching their goals.

In short, combined the DNC and GOP are the "authorities, the powers of this dark world". They are a part (opposite ideologies) of the same thing (the same political system...worldly solutions to spiritual problems).

 

[Reynolds]

They are opposite in that they hold opposing ideologies and agendas. The DNC has adopted the sins of Romans 3 as a platform. In terms of secular morality the GOP maintains what could be called traditional values (at least on the surface). The DNC holds an economic view directly opposite of the GOP. The DNC is culturally liberal while the GOP is conservative. The DNC platform advocates abortion while the GOP is anti-abortion (platforms). The DNC holds a foreign policy that is opposite the policy of the GOP. The DNC is blatantly immoral while the GOP advocates secular morality (probably repetitious...traditional morals that align with traditional religious values). The DNC holds domestic policies that are opposite the GOP. The DNC holds a progressive view of the Constitution while the GOP aligns with a more literal position. The DNC is largely "democratic socialist" while the GOP leans more to a laissez-faire capitalistic economic approach.

I could go on, but I think it is sufficient to say they are opposite.

They are of the same kind. That is, they are opposite sides of the same political system (they are, by definition, secular powers. They are "powers of darkness", or of the "word". The GOP and DNC are, as entities, atheistic. Each depends on the existence of the other for political power. Both seek worldly solutions to "fix" the world or the nation. And both only exist by never reaching their goals.

In short, combined the DNC and GOP are the "authorities, the powers of this dark world". They are a part (opposite ideologies) of the same thing (the same political system...worldly solutions to spiritual problems).

I agree they are opposite. The coin being the political system I can agree with. You saying the coin is the problem?

 

[JonC]

I agree they are opposite. The coin being the political system I can agree with. You saying the coin is the problem?

Yes. I believe secular politics itself is a part of the system Paul spoke of as worldly and a power of darkness.