Jack Schaap dismissed.

[Jerome]

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/09/19/ex-pastor-pleads-guilty-to-relationship-with-underage-girl/

Dr. Jack Schaap, who was fired as pastor of First Baptist Church of Hammond this summer, has been charged with transporting a minor across state lines for s-xual activity.

He made his initial appearance in federal court in Hammond on Wednesday and was taken into custody by federal marshals. He has agreed to plead guilty, and federal prosecutors will recommend he face the mandatory minimum of 10 years in prison.

Schaap waived his right to have an indictment by a grand jury after having signed a plea agreement in federal court on Tuesday.

 

[Jerome]

Schaap files memorandum Wednesday begging judge for minimum sentence, claims money and prostate problems brought on his moral lapse:

Pdf here:

http://www.nwitimes.com/records/doc...pdf_28b7afdb-8a38-54cd-aa06-9cbf507a013f.html

Comes now Jack Allan Schaap, by counsel Paul G. Stracci and Alison L Benjamin of Thiros & Stracci, and submits his memorandum in aid of sentencing with the attached sentencing letters, all in support of the parties’ recommendation that the Court impose upon him a below-guideline sentence of 120 months (the statutory mandatory minimum sentence).

at the time he engaged in such conduct, he was simultaneously suffering extreme stress, exhaustion, depression, burn-out, and several other medical maladies

stress was brought on by a myriad of factors related to the survival of the church and its schools. For instance, where he had always been able to secure funds to support the church’s services, he began to struggle to secure adequate funding. Due to the decline in funds available for the church’s budget, he was forced to lay-off dedicated workers, causing him further frustration and depression. The lay-offs also necessitated his assuming additional responsibilities, often causing him to work 100 hour weeks with no breaks in his schedule.

In addition, as described in the presentence report, Dr. Schaap was also being treated by a local urologist and his primary care physician for complications with his prostrate, including chronic and acute prostatitis

 

[Tom Bryant]

As Bugs would say:

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Please don't insult maroons.

 

[Tom Bryant]

Please don't insult maroons.

true. lol He wants to take full responsibility and then find a way to avoid it.

 

[Mexdeaf]

I have no respect for the man.

 

[salzer mtn]

Move over Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart, Jack Schaap is coming your way. The three J's

 

[OldRegular]

Move over Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart, Jack Schaap is coming your way. The three J's

Please! That is Jim Bakker!

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Yeah, my aunt married a Baker. So, leave them out too.

Please! That is Jim Bakker!

 

[HankD]

KJV Psalm 130:3 If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?

HankD​

 

[salzer mtn]

Please! That is Jim Bakker!

Well dog gone it, Ole Jimmy went and put a extra K in his name. Yinz fellers think i need ta put da burlap sack around me and throw ashes on my head ? raying:

 

[Aaron]

One: He was confronted and now say's he's sorry. If he was truly sorry HE would have come clean without having to be found out and confronted.

Is this how you would have advised the Corinthians? Paul doesn't appear to agree.

 

[SovereignMercy]

Fundy "baptists" are the modern Pharisees and theologically liberals are the modern Sadducees. One has made up their own set of external rules to hide the Bible behind, the other denies God's supernatural works and the afterlife.

 

[Tom Bryant]

Fundy "baptists" are the modern Pharisees ... One has made up their own set of external rules to hide the Bible behind, ...

Can you get that broad brush into your front door or do you have to keep it in the double wide garage? :tongue3:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Fundy "baptists" are the modern Pharisees and theologically liberals are the modern Sadducees. One has made up their own set of external rules to hide the Bible behind, the other denies God's supernatural works and the afterlife.

How did you come to these conclusions? Do you yourself not support the fundamental truths of Christ without turning it into a Buzz Word, a label to convict others?

If you could, would you personally eliminate all who would disagree with you or could you live with a serious conversation about becoming a "serious" / fundamental (go back to the root cause) Christian? I dont know you but you appear to be judgmental as apposed to patient & non accusatory. I will await your reply....perhaps I am missing something.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Here is a question I have that is a sincere question.

How much responsibility does the FBC Hammond (and others like it) bear in maintaining a man like this in the pulpit.

I believe they are not culpable in any way in Schaap's physical relationship with this girl he was counseling, but I do believe if they had been knowledgable of the Bible themselves, they could not have allowed this man to preach (and that's being kind).

In the case of a man like Schaap, where does one draw the line of accoutability between the preacher and the congregants for the very poor preaching and false teachings.

 

[Tom Bryant]

Here is a question I have that is a sincere question.

How much responsibility does the FBC Hammond (and others like it) bear in maintaining a man like this in the pulpit.

I believe they are not culpable in any way in Schaap's physical relationship with this girl he was counseling, but I do believe if they had been knowledgable of the Bible themselves, they could not have allowed this man to preach (and that's being kind).

In the case of a man like Schaap, where does one draw the line of accoutability between the preacher and the congregants for the very poor preaching and false teachings.

I am not sure what you are asking. As soon as it was known, he was removed from the pulpit, so they didn't allow him to continue.

Your final point is good, though. The church ought to exercise accountability in what the preacher preaches. They ought to check out scriptures to make certain that the Pastor is preaching what the Bible says.

 

[Scarlett O.]

Your final point is good, though. The church ought to exercise accountability in what the preacher preaches. They ought to check out scriptures to make certain that the Pastor is preaching what the Bible says.

That's what I am asking. I've listened to many of his sermons and read some transcripts. These people should have dismissed him long ago for being a preacher who did not preach the gospel.