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Jeb! Bush's Prediction Comes True

Crabtownboy

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Trump told a number of lies during his press conference. Here are a few:
  • Lied when he said the House is a smooth running machine
  • Lied when the said the travel ban had a smooth roll-out.
  • Lied when he said ISIS is not spreading like a cancer. Their territory shrunk by about 10% in the first half of 2015
  • Lied about the number of electoral college votes he received
  • Lied about having the largest electoral college vote since Reagan
  • Lied when he said no one mentioned Hillary cheating at the debates
  • Lied when he said the press never calls him
  • Lied when he said the New York Times is failing. Their circulation increased to 2.5 million after his election
 

righteousdude2

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Trump's only consistency today was his inconsistency. He flipped and flopped. If you preached a sermon with as many flip and flops as Trump exhibited today you probably would be escorted out of the church and asked not to return.

Your hate is bleeding through.
 

Crabtownboy

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Your hate is bleeding through.

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You bring so much humor to my life. Thanks. Good laughs is healthy.

As I said in other posts. I do not hate. Hate is stupid. I do not drink rat poison and hope the rat dies.
 

777

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Notice Trump said the NYT was failing and said nothing about the circulation increase.
 

InTheLight

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New York Times is failing. Their circulation increased to 2.5 million after his election
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Notice Trump said the NYT was failing and said nothing about the circulation increase.


Fourth-quarter 2016 results included the following special items:

 
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777

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Don't know all that much about the internal operations of the NYT, but the revenue was down a little over one percent year to year but that above chart tells me they recovered some of it in Q4.

I really think this is more of an on-going decline in traditional print media but the operating income went way up in Q4 and why?
 

InTheLight

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Don't know all that much about the internal operations of the NYT, but the revenue was down a little over one percent year to year but that above chart tells me they recovered some of it in Q4.

I really think this is more of an on-going decline in traditional print media but the operating income went way up in Q4 and why?

Charging more for advertisement because there are more readers due to election coverage?

Here's the "failing" NY Times stock price since the election. It's up 38%.

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kyredneck

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So you admit Trump is having problems. That's the first step...

Egad man, he's an outsider that will expose the establishment at every turn. Of course the establishment is going to fight him tooth and nail, and of course they're going to attempt to capitalize on every snafu and mistake his administration makes while 'learning the ropes'. This is yet very early in the game. I personally expect his popularity with 'the people' to grow greatly as hope in 'the American dream' grows. We'll see.

IOW, you may just be bashing a hero of the common people. You may just have to eat a lot of crow before this is over with.
 
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I really think this is more of an on-going decline in traditional print media but the operating income went way up in Q4 and why?

The last quarter is typically the best of the year because of Christmas advertising. And last year was an election year, so there was probably more political advertising. I don't see the numbers here, but I would assume that circulation rose for coverage of the election and the aftermath.
 
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InTheLight

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Q-Q is an invalid measure. Year-to-year, as you previously posted, is valid. And, it shows a decline of revenue. Your Q-Q data shows a decline each quarter until the fourth. The Christmas season is always going to be a bump.

I reject your alternative facts, for valid facts. :)
Year-to-year shows a revenue decline of 1.1%. Whoop-dee-doo. That's not failing, for Pete's sake!

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Baptist Brother

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Year-to-year shows a revenue decline of 1.1%. Whoop-dee-doo. That's not failing, for Pete's sake!

Net income is down 28%, big whoop-dee-doo. Yeah, a one-time charge. And, next year there will be another one-time charge for something else. But, even a decline of 1% is still a decline. In spite of efforts to grow the business, revenue is still declining. Digital subscriptions cost nothing to distribute, no printing, no paying paperboys. A transition to digital subscriptions helps cover up a decline. But, once there are no more paper subscribers switching to digital, the decline will no longer be covered up.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Egad man, he's an outsider that will expose the establishment at every turn. Of course the establishment is going to fight him tooth and nail, and of course they're going to attempt to capitalize on every snafu and mistake his administration makes while 'learning the ropes'. This is yet very early in the game. I personally expect his popularity with 'the people' to grow greatly as hope in 'the American dream' grows. We'll see.

IOW, you may just be bashing a hero of the common people. You may just have to eat a lot of crow before this is over with.
we will see
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Egad man, he's an outsider that will expose the establishment at every turn. Of course the establishment is going to fight him tooth and nail, and of course they're going to attempt to capitalize on every snafu and mistake his administration makes while 'learning the ropes'. This is yet very early in the game. I personally expect his popularity with 'the people' to grow greatly as hope in 'the American dream' grows. We'll see.

IOW, you may just be bashing a hero of the common people. You may just have to eat a lot of crow before this is over with.
Egads--his only accomplishment is to divide the country... that's diabolical not cohesive. Personally I believe he will be out, he is just a decoy. Pense will take over & bind up the wounds....wait & see.
 

InTheLight

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Net income is down 28%, big whoop-dee-doo. Yeah, a one-time charge. And, next year there will be another one-time charge for something else.

Thanks for the laugh. It's apparent you lack knowledge when it comes to financial statements and accounting practices.

But, even a decline of 1% is still a decline. In spite of efforts to grow the business, revenue is still declining.

We must wait until the 2017 first quarter results come out and compare them to 2016 Q1 results. Then we might have a trend. Until then we have a special one time write-off and a 1% decline in revenue. That is not failing.

I don't have any special care one way or the other if the NY Times is profitable or not. I do care about whether or not the President makes false statements. And the idea that the NY Times is failing is false.





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Thanks for the laugh. It's apparent you lack knowledge when it comes to financial statements and accounting practices.

HAHAHAHAHhohohohahaha! I lack knowledge for thinking a small decline is still a decline? I lack knowledge because I see that the switch to digital subscripts obscures a decline (by reducing distribution costs). I lack knowledge in knowing that one-time write-offs don't happen just one time? If I lacked knowledge, you would show me now, rather than making me laugh.

See, like, when you tried to play Q4 against the previous quarters of the year to show that the paper wasn't declining, you were educated on the invalidity of that argument. Instead of making an unsupported claim that you lack knowledge, I (and someone else) told you why you're wrong.

We must wait until the 2017 first quarter results come out and compare them to 2016 Q1 results. Then we might have a trend. Until then we have a special one time write-off and a 1% decline in revenue. That is not failing.

Before 2005, the New Your Times always had an operating profit of over over a half billion dollars, every year. There already is a trend, down the drain. In 2016, their profit was less than 20% of what it was in 2005. Even without the one-time write-off, it would still be a shadow of what it once regularly was.

I don't have any special care one way or the other if the NY Times is profitable or not. I do care about whether or not the President makes false statements. And the idea that the NY Times is failing is false.

Trump engages in constant hyperbole. It's not false statements when it's his known style. Even your post shows the Times still declining. And, in the big picture, it's a shadow of what it once was just a decade ago.
 
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