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Jesus as savior ... what about Jesus as Lord?

plain_n_simple

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"God has used the spiritual gifts that he has bestowed upon me by his grace mightily for the past 40 years. "
Share it brother!
 

The Biblicist

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"God has used the spiritual gifts that he has bestowed upon me by his grace mightily for the past 40 years. "
Share it brother!

This is not a format to do that! It is like casting pearls in the wrong place before the wrong crowd and no good can come of it. It requires a wrong spirit to even engage in such a thing. The bible says to let others praise you and not yourself. Judgement day will reveal all things and give the only praise that is worthy.
 

plain_n_simple

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This is not a format to do that! It is like casting pearls in the wrong place before the wrong crowd and no good can come of it. It requires a wrong spirit to even engage in such a thing. The bible says to let others praise you and not yourself. Judgement day will reveal all things and give the only praise that is worthy.

When you testify, you tell about what Jesus has done for you, and through you, for others.

You cannot get any praise, it's all Him getting the glory amen!

Now brag about what awesome things Jesus has done for you and through you brother!
 

The Biblicist

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When you testify, you tell about what Jesus has done for you, and through you, for others.

You cannot get any praise, it's all Him getting the glory amen!

Now brag about what awesome things Jesus has done for you and through you brother!

When you place it in the context of comparison, and that is precisely the context you have placed it in on this forum it is sin.

2Co 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
 

plain_n_simple

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When you place it in the context of comparison, and that is precisely the context you have placed it in on this forum it is sin.

2Co 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

I'm not comparing a thing, you have the floor. Testify brother!
 

The Biblicist

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Returning to the OP. It is impossible to be saved apart from receiving Christ as both Lord and Savior. The very nature of repentance is submission to Christ as Lord (Rom. 8:7) and the very nature of faith is to receive him as savior.

It is not possible to be saved without both. It is utterly impossible to be saved any other way.

Finally, repentance is not penance or works but the consequential CHANGE wrought by regeneration.
 

The Biblicist

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I'm not comparing a thing, you have the floor. Testify brother!

You have revealed your hand many times already in this discussion. You are a mocker and a denier that anyone can be a true disciple of Christ without miracles signs and wonders exhibited in their life. The Bible flatly denies this - 1 Cor. 12:29-30. Hence, your anti-biblical fruits define the spirit behind you.

Furthermore, you are attempting to derail the OP.
 

Yeshua1

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No, just like a stock marketer, he can offer only the All or None option.

ALL already have jesus as Both moment saved by the Grace of god, but some grow quicker and mature faster, and realise that truth and have Him instituted as being both quicker than others!
 

Yeshua1

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You have revealed your hand many times already in this discussion. You are a mocker and a denier that anyone can be a true disciple of Christ without miracles signs and wonders exhibited in their life. The Bible flatly denies this - 1 Cor. 12:29-30. Hence, your anti-biblical fruits define the spirit behind you.

Furthermore, you are attempting to derail the OP.

He holds to the Gospel according to hagin/Copeland/paulk etc NOT the one of Jesus and Paul!
 
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