This is clearly conjecture from me but maybe His body was anointed before burial then they wanted to add more later? I honestly don’t know for sure all that transpired, so it is conjecture/guess work.
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Jesus' burial spices.
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37818
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I think your guess is a good guess. But the Holy Spirit wanted us to have the written account as He gave it for a purpose. We need understand how those details are true.
The 2 special sabbaths of Passover Week can be on any day of the week. That makes it possible to have THREE sabbaths in a week, including the regular weekly one. (The special ones are called "High Sabbaths".)
MEANWHILE, BACK AT THE RANCH...
The purpose for bringing spices later mighta been to kill the odor of decay with the Febreze of that day.
canadyjd
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I believe the events happened in AD 27 according to my research that's led me to believe Jesus was born in BC 6 on our calendars. And if I remember right, the paschal lamb meal was on Tuesday eve, which places Jesus' death/burial on Wednesday, & the first High Sabbath on Thursday, & Jesus' resurrection on Saturday before sunset. The women came to His tomb Sunday AM, which was NOT the sabbath to them.
37818
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In 27 AD the Passover as mentioned in Mark 14:12-16 was on a Wednesday, April 9 on the Julian Calendar. Also on a Wednesday April 5th in 30 AD. Now according to Mark Christ was crucified the following day being our Thursday.
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Jesus was almost certainly born in 6 BC on our calendars. Just check & see when Quirinius was governor of the area. While several records say Gaius Saturninus was governor from 9 to 7 BC, Quirinius had been sent in 12 BC to subdue the Homonadenses, a tribe in Cilicia, adjacent to "Syria", & he finally subdued them & enlisted them as allies in 6 BC. During this time, the rulers of Syria-Judea answered to him, and he had issued a census edict in late 7BC, necessitating Joseph's journey to Bethlehem to register for it. Since journeys of any length took awhile back then, allowing time for the edict to reach Joseph, it was well into 6 BC before he & Mary arrived at Bethlehem.
Calendar confusion IMO. This is the result of Gentile view vs the Jewish calendar. Yes, it is possible to have two Sabbaths in the same week and thus the women doing (the same) things both before and after the "Sabbath" because one Sabbath is the annual Sabbath and the other is the weekly. Thus, I personally don't believe he was crucified on a Friday. But, if one wants to espouse that belief, then one will always run into these problems while the critics of the bible makes fun of the situation.
37818
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That would be the only way they could have bought spices after a Sabbath ie the 15th, bought took them home and prepared them on the 16th and with the weekly sabbath the 17th coming on rested, per the commandment, then on the first day of the week the 18th went to the tomb to anoint a body that had risen late on the previous day and wasn't there.
But we don't know how long JTB had been actively preaching before he met Jesus.
37818
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But the Luke 3:1 does not refer to the beginning of JTB ministry. In the 15th year being between September 27AD to September 28AD. Seotember 28AD the 15th year, September 14AD being not year zero but year 1, September 14AD to September 15AD being in the second year.
Lev 23:5 in the first month, on the fourteenth of the month, between the evenings, is the passover to Jehovah;
What does that mean ? the passover to Jehovah ------ Does it mean? 1 Cor 5:7 YLT cleanse out, therefore, the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, according as ye are unleavened, for also our passover for us was sacrificed -- Christ,
Did that take place on the fourteenth day of the first month? Bearing in mind we do know Christ died sometime after 3 pm and approximately before 6 pm and or the beginning moment of the following day.
Therefore did he not die on (per your data above above) our Wednesday the 14th and was entombed before the beginning of the 15th the high day Sabbath?
Therefore our Thursday would have been the day portion of the 15th and the women would have not worked per Lev 23:7? The 16th beginning at sunset they would have bought and prepared the spices on our Friday the daylight hours of the 16th? And then rested the weekly Sabbath per the commandment Luke 23:56 Until the dawning to light on the 1 day of the week to go to the tomb?
37818
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Mark 14:12 did, "And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?"
37818
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The 14th of Nisan in the following years:
25AD Monday April 2
26AD Eriday March 22
27AD Wednesday April 9
28AD Monday March 29
29AD Saterday April 16
30AD Wedensday April 5
31AD Monday March 26
32AD Monday April 14
33AD Friday April 3
34AD Monday March 27
35AD Monday April 11
36AD Friday March 30
37AD Wedensday March 20
The month and dates are Julian.
The 14th of Nisan being Mark 14:12-16.
The following evening Mark 14:17 the beginning of the 15th of Nisan.
The day of the 15th was the crucifixion.
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FYI, be careful of calendar converters or any form of calculation. Back then they went by eyesight seeing the crescent new moon. An astronomy program will give the day/date most likely the new moon was seen. For example, such an astronomy program claims that Passover (14th of Nisan) 33AD was on a Friday and 34AD on a Wednesday. And it does use Julian dates. The present calculated calendar is a wonderful algorithm to keep Jews in the Diaspora all "on the same page" for unity in feast days, but back then (as well as today as they are back in Israel) there is no need for that any longer. Lack of agreement and for what I call "human nature" is the reason they still calculate it being the path of least resistance.
37818
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The Roman Catholic church historically held the crucifixion to be on the 14th of Nisan on a Friday April 7, 30AD.
Both the 14th of Nisan and the Friday for the crucifixion are unBiblical per Mark 14:12.
Sir Isaac Newton believing in the 15th year Luke 3:1 to be 29AD. He recalculated two dates for the crucifixion to be on the 14th of Nisan and a Friday. 34AD and 33AD. The 33AD April 3 is the one being accepted.
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