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Jesus Christ and Repentance

SavedByGrace

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So all whom Christ died for and redeemed by His Blood, shall be given repentance and returned back to God

this is "reformed theology" and has nothing to do with the Bible! Sinners are commanded to repent of their sins, or gor to hell. Jesus could not have been any clearer on this,

"Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.” (Luke 13:1-5)

These words are spoken to all, and not just the "elect".
 

Brightfame52

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this is "reformed theology" and has nothing to do with the Bible! Sinners are commanded to repent of their sins, or gor to hell. Jesus could not have been any clearer on this,

"Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.” (Luke 13:1-5)

These words are spoken to all, and not just the "elect".
I have shown you scriptures from the bible.
 

Brightfame52

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All the glory for salvation belongs to God, He has done all that was necessary for the salvation of a man, including the granting of the gift of repentance . Repentance is given furnished in and through Christ because it was necessary for mans Salvation experience. There's a verse that says with Christ, God freely gives us all things Rom 8:32

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

So with Christ He gives repentance Acts 5:31;11:18

The word grant or give in these verses is the word didōmi and means:
to supply, furnish, necessary things


So is repentance necessary for the Salvatiion experience ? Absolutely, its necessary for repentance to be towards God Acts 20:21

Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 17:30 19
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

But no worries since through Christ God furnishes, supplies this needed repentance , and it will be applied by Christ.

Christ is a full Saviour !
 

SavedByGrace

Well-Known Member
All the glory for salvation belongs to God, He has done all that was necessary for the salvation of a man, including the granting of the gift of repentance . Repentance is given furnished in and through Christ because it was necessary for mans Salvation experience. There's a verse that says with Christ, God freely gives us all things Rom 8:32

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

So with Christ He gives repentance Acts 5:31;11:18

The word grant or give in these verses is the word didōmi and means:
to supply, furnish, necessary things


So is repentance necessary for the Salvatiion experience ? Absolutely, its necessary for repentance to be towards God Acts 20:21

Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 17:30 19
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

But no worries since through Christ God furnishes, supplies this needed repentance , and it will be applied by Christ.

Christ is a full Saviour !

no one is disputing that all of salvation, from start to finish, is through the immense Kindness and Goodness of God. If it were not for Him, then not a single person would be in heaven. The point is that God in His Mercy, has made it possible for ALL human beings, to be saved, should they desire to. This is clear from the Bible, if taken for what it says, without any theological bias applied to it.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
no one is disputing that all of salvation, from start to finish, is through the immense Kindness and Goodness of God. If it were not for Him, then not a single person would be in heaven. The point is that God in His Mercy, has made it possible for ALL human beings, to be saved, should they desire to. This is clear from the Bible, if taken for what it says, without any theological bias applied to it.
This is error. You promote a possible salvation. This is a sure salvation, and God gives repentance. And that concept does dispute and contradict that all Salvation is of God.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
Are Faith and Repentance evangelical truths that must be preached ? The answer is absolutely yes, Jesus said Lk 24:47

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

So its no doubt that sound Gospel preaching includes repentance. However where men go wrong is when they make repentance and or faith conditions for Justification before God ! They say that men and women for whom Christ died are not justified, made righteous before God without them ! They are in essence saying that everything Christ did for them in His Person and Work fell short in making them righteous/justified before God.
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
In Gospel preaching, instead of faith/repentance being conditions man must perform in order for God to justify them or make them righteous, they are to be acknowledged and received as Spiritual Blessings from Christ being risen as their Savor, along with remission of sins, as Peter points out in his sermon Acts 5:31

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.


The greek word give is the the verb didōmi and means:


  1. to give something to someone

    1. of one's own accord to give one something, to his advantage

      1. to bestow a gift


  1. to supply, furnish, necessary things

    The giving of these things are necessary in constituting Christ a Savior from sin !

    Faith and Repentance are necessary furnishings to do the will of God !
 
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