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Jesus Christ And The Thousand Year Reign

George Antonios

Well-Known Member
REVELATION’S
Forth Section of Seven
describes
“The Persecuting Dragon”
in
REVELATION
12:1 – 14:20.
***

This Forth Section begins
”FURTHER BACK IN TIME”
( than JESUS’ EARTHY MINISTRY )
and encompasses
the History of the World
from Creation
to JESUS’ FIRST COMING
and then
to JESUS’ SECOND COMING.

***

Christ’s First Coming
is summarized in REVELATION 12:5;

“And she brought forth
a Man Child,
who was to Rule all nations
with a Rod of Iron:
and her Child
was caught up to God,
and to His Throne.”

***

As Jesus Christ
is now Enthroned,
the Dragon makes war
against the saints,
employing the services
of the Beast
in REVELATION 13:1;
“And I stood on
the sand of the sea,
and saw a beast
rise up out of the sea,
having seven heads
and ten horns,
and on his horns ten crowns,
and on his heads
the name of blasphemy.”

***

The Second Beast
or False Prophet
is EMPLOYED
BY THE DRAGON:

in REVELATION 13:11,12;
“And I beheld
another beast
coming up out of the earth;
and he had
two horns like a lamb,
and he spake as a dragon.
And he exercised
all the power
of the first beast
before him,
and caused the earth
and them
which dwell therein
to worship the first beast,
whose deadly wound
was healed.”

***

And the Whore
– Babylon
is EMPLOYED
BY THE DRAGON:

in REVELATION 14:8;
“And there followed
another angel,
saying,
Babylon is fallen,
is fallen,
that great city,
because she made all nations
drink of the wine of the wrath
of her fornication.”

***

Jesus Christ’s Second Coming
in Judgment
is seen at the End
of this
FORTH of SEVEN SECTIONS
in REVELATION 14:14-16;

“And I looked,
and behold a white cloud,
and on the cloud One Sat
like the Son of Man,

***

having on His Head
a Golden Crown,
and in His Hand
a Sharp Sickle.

***

And another angel
came out of the temple,
crying with a loud voice
to Him
that Sat on the cloud,
Thrust in Your Sickle,
and Reap:

***

for the Time is Come
for You to Reap;
for the Harvest
of the Earth is ripe.

***

And He
that Sat on the cloud
Thrust in His Sickle
on the Earth;
and the Earth
was Reaped.”

***


The Fifth Section of Seven
concerns

“The Seven Bowls”
in REVELATION 15:1 – 16:21.
***
In this Fifth Section
is another description
of the Judgments of God
which concludes
with the Final Judgment
in REVELATION 16:20;

“And every island fled away,
and the mountains
were not found..”

***
The Sixth Section of Seven
concerns
“The Fall of Babylon”
in REVELATION 17:1 – 19:21.
***

The World System
which prevails
between the First Coming
and Second Coming
of Jesus Christ to Earth
is defeated by Jesus Christ at
THE RETURN of JESUS CHRIST.

***

JESUS’ RETURN is described in
REVELATION 19:11-16;

“And I saw Heaven opened,
and behold a White Horse;
and He that Sat on him
was called Faithful
and True,
and in Righteousness
He does Judge
and Make War.

***
“His Eyes
were as a Flame of Fire,
and on His Head
were Many Crowns;
and He had a Name written,
that no man knew,
but He Himself.

***
“And He was Clothed
with a Robe;
Dipped in Blood:
and His Name is called
The Word of God.

***
“And the armies
which were in Heaven
followed Him on White Horses,
Clothed in Fine Linen,
White and Clean.

***
“And out of His Mouth
goes a Sharp Sword,
that with it He should
Smite the Nations:

***
“and He will Rule them
with a Rod of Iron:
and He Treads
the Wine-press
of the Fierceness
and Wrath
of Almighty God.

***
“And He has on His Robe
and on His Thigh
a Name Written,

***

“KING OF KINGS,
AND LORD OF LORDS.”

***

The Seventh Section of Seven
concerns
“The Great Consummation”

in REVELATION 20:1 – 22:21.
***

Here we meet up with
the final demise of Satan.

***

We are told in REVELATION 20:2,3
of Satan being bound for 1,000 years
- a binding which commenced
in Jesus Christ’s First Coming
(cf. Mt 12:29;)

“Or else
how can one enter
into a strong man’s house,
and spoil his goods,
***
except he first bind
the strong man?
and then
he will spoil his house.”

***

And this “binding of the strong man”, Satan,
Spoken of in Matthew 12:29, by Jesus Christ,
parallels Satan being “cast out”,
when John mentioned this,
in REVELATION 12:9;

And the Great Dragon
was cast out,
that old serpent,
called the Devil,
and Satan,
which deceives
the whole world:
***
“he was cast out
into the earth,
and his angels
were cast out with him.”

***

This “1,000 years”,
SPOKEN of “SYMBOLICALLY”,
DEPICTS “A SEEMINGLY ENDLESS”
PERIOD of TIME ( a 1,000 years ),
AND YET THAT PERIOD of TIME
IS FINITE !

***

A “calender” PERIOD of TIME,
of 1,000 “ACTUAL” years
IS NEVER INTENDED.

***

This “1,000 years”,
SPOKEN of “SYMBOLICALLY”,
DEPICTS
the PERIOD of TIME
and the ACTIVITY
of THE TRIUNE GODHEAD
from
THE ASCENSION
of JESUS CHRIST
BACK to HEAVEN
from EARTH
until
JESUS’ SECOND COMING
to EARTH at
THE END of THE WORLD.

***

AFTER,
THIS PERIOD of TIME,
BETWEEN
the FIRST COMING of JESUS
and JESUS SECOND COMING
there is “a little season”
in which Satan is loosed,
in (REVELATION 20:7;

And when
the thousand years

( SPOKEN of “SYMBOLICALLY”,
and DEPICTING
“A SEEMINGLY ENDLESS”
PERIOD of TIME ( a 1,000 years ),
AND YET THAT PERIOD of TIME
IS FINITE !)

are expired,
Satan will be loosed
out of his prison”

***

SATAN’S DOOM
WHEN THE DRAGON
is finally overthrown
is in REVELATION 20:10;

And the devil
that deceived them
was cast into the Lake of Fire
and Brimstone,
***
“where the Beast
and the False Prophet are,
and will be Tormented
Day and Night
For Ever and Ever.”

***

The Book of REVELATION
consists of Seven Sections,
***
These Seven Sections
run parallel to one another.

***

Each of the
“SEVEN SECTIONS”
Subject Matter Spans the Entire
PERIOD of TIME in HISTORY
from the First Coming
of Jesus Christ to Earth,
until the Second Coming
of Jesus Christ to Earth,
IN JUDGEMENT.
***
This Period of Time,
from the First Coming
of Jesus Christ to Earth,
until the Second Coming
of Jesus Christ to Earth,
is PRESENTED to US,
in the SEVEN DIFFERENT SECTIONS,
as GOD “UNVEILS” ONE VIEW POINT
& ASPECT
of HIS REVELATION to MANKIND,

REGARDING THIS
“END TIME” PERIOD
of THE CHURCH AGE

WHILE, IN OTHERS
of the “SEVEN SECTIONS”
GOD HAS BEEN PLEASED
to REVEAL & “UNVEIL”
VARIOUS OTHER
PURE REVELATIONS,

FROM THE ETERNAL
TRUINE GODHEAD,
to man on Earth.

***
Adapted from

MORE THAN CONQUERORS = buy it and memorize it)

Please use bigger font next time.
 

Alan Gross

Well-Known Member
Please use bigger font next time.
dIG dUDE. Lost people ought to be able to see it that way.
I pasted from my blog and had fonted for phone reading.

They do that automatically, now.

The sections being defined by a VISION EACH, is the key to Revelation. Zero use or need to read or study or invent Disney land all over by.............."reading revelation chapter by chapter, chronologically". .......Zero.......

That results in the garbage, trash, and truly Satanic Insanity of what could be denominated, "Christain Book Publisher's Mega-Profits".

Precious little more and generation after generation not told about Jesus, in a way that could be USED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.
 

tyndale1946

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Please use bigger font next time.

Yeah!... Alan is the BIG FONT man... Whereas Iconoclast is the Rainbow Font man... And some are, I'm writing a book man... Then actually he is not new but he has been here before is Paul Of Antioch he is the how many different emojes can I put in one post man:eek:... The BB is loaded with all different characters... Now you don't want us all to think the same, do you George?:confused:... There are way more than 57 varieties on here and that's just the Baptist... Brother Glen:)
 

tyndale1946

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
I have been listening to this argument since I first joined many years ago... I and other brethren understand it one way and others see it different... I know what I believe and I will stand on that believe and there is no one here, that has changed it... That being said, it does not matter what each of us believe as we can speculate all we want, the events have not come to pass... The Final Resurrection that is!... We can all agree, that we do not possess a sinless body... We are all going to die and as one of our stanzas in one of our song states... My latest sun is sinking fast, my race is nearly run... The fact is, any of us could die any day... So as the Apostle Paul says... I will wait till my change come... We can say and believe what we want but the events are in Lords hands and it will be how he purposes it, according to his will and plan and not how we want it to be... I wish all you brethren on this OP only, farewell in the Lord... I'm excusing myself from this discussion and hopefully from the same topic in the future... Brother Glen:)

My apologies I'm going to stick around... I got confused as there were two OP on the same subject, running at the same time... I was responding in one but it closed... In all my time on the BB, I have never excused myself from my own OP:Notworthy... Well that's a first:oops:... In the words of a previous Governor Of California!... I'M BACK!!!... Now where were we?... Brother Glen:D
 

Alan Gross

Well-Known Member
I WASN'T AWARE THAT YOUR THINKING WAS A FUNCTION OF YOUR FONT SIZE AND COLOUR...

yes, absolutely. all my 700, or so, blogs, at Private Site, are an example of this being one of a number of TOOLS used by successful collaborators.

However, no, they don't pierce through the soul and spirit.

Only the inspired Word of GOD DOES.

(ok, MY SITE POPPED UP PRIVATE. Let me know if you want to see things)
 

tyndale1946

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
I WASN'T AWARE THAT YOUR THINKING WAS A FUNCTION OF YOUR FONT SIZE AND COLOUR...

I'm just telling you the facts George!... It is what it is!... Each of us have our own style... I was just giving you examples... You can be sure of one thing when Alan posts, you don't need glasses:Thumbsup... Brother Glen:Biggrin
 

Alan Gross

Well-Known Member
No, you weren't:



But enough of that.

The brothers, here at BB, have asked me to clear the direct formatting, previously, to allow the readers a more favorable view of the contents.

I can tell you exactly when
The END of The WORLD
Will Be:


The Answer to

when will
The END of The WORLD Be?:

was Given by
Jesus to His Disciples,
in Answer to the last question
His Disciples had asked of Him,
at the latter portion of
Matthew 24:3b..,c



Jesus’ Disciples had asked of Him,
at the latter portion of
Matthew 24:3b..,c

‘what Will Be the Sign of …
The End of The World’.


Jesus’ Answer was
in Matthew 24:35, 36 & 37;

Matthew 24:35;
“Heaven and Earth
Will Pass Away,
but
My Words
Will Not Pass Away.”

Matthew 24:36;
“But of that day and hour”

( WHEN:
‘Heaven and Earth
Will Pass Away’ )

“knows no man,
no, not the Angels of Heaven,
but My Father only.

Matthew 24:36;
“37 But as the days of Noah were,
so Will also
the Coming
of The Son of man Be.”







A brief discussion of
The BIBLE DEFINITION
of ‘The Gospel’
in Matthew 24:14
and
‘The Abomination
of Desolation of Jerusalem
and The Temple,
in Mattew 24:1, 2 & 3.

“Matthew 24:14
And this Gospel of the Kingdom”
i.e., The Good News of
The Promised Messiah
which would be defined
in 1 Corinthians 15:1 & 4 as;
“Christ Died for our sins
According to the Scriptures;

“4 And that He was Buried,
and that He Rose again
The Third Day”

Matthew 24:14b;
“And this Gospel of the Kingdom
shall be Preached in all the World
for a witness unto all Nations;
and then Will the end* come.”

This ‘end*’ being
The END of Jerusalem and The Temple,
about which Jesus
was Answering the Apostles question,
regarding His Statement to them
Revealing to them
The Coming Destruction of Jerusalem
and The Temple,
here in Mattew 24:1,2 & 3a;

“1 And Jesus went out,
and departed from the Temple:
and his Disciples came to Him
for to show Him
the buildings of the Temple.

“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.

“3 And as He sat upon the mount of Olives,
the Disciples came unto Him privately,
saying,
Tell us, when shall these things be?
and what Will be
The Sign of Your coming*,”

In Matthew 24:3 b & c;
In their First Two Questions:
in Matthew 24:3 b;
when Jesus’
“…Disciples came to Him privately,
saying,
1.) Tell us, when Will these things be?
and
in Matthew 24:3 c
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*,”
Jesus is Answering His Disciples,
Regarding their
First Two Questions:
1.) Tell us, when Will these things be?
and
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*,”
that had to do with
what Jesus had just Said,
about
The Destruction of The Temple,
in Matthew 24:2;

“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.”

When Jesus then Answers
these First Two Questions
by His Disciples,
1.) Tell us, when Will these things be?
and
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*,”
Jesus Answers
these
First two Questions,
in Matthew 24:4-34.

Matthew 24:4-34
is an

Explanation
Jesus is Giving His Disciples,

Regarding
The Destruction of The Temple,
He had JUST MENTIONED:
in Matthew 24:2;

“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.”

Everything Recorded
in Matthew 24:4-34, is

Jesus’ Explanation of
The Abomination of Desolation’

that
Jesus Refers to SPECIFICALLY,
in MATTHEW 24:15;
15 When you, therefore, will see
The Abomination of Desolation,
spoken of by
Daniel the Prophet,
stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth,
let him understand),
INCLUDING
The ‘coming’ of Jesus,
mentioned
in His Disciples Second Question,
in Matthew 24:3b;
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*”.

In Divine Interpretation of

Jesus’ Explanation of
The Abomination of Desolation’

that
Jesus Refers to SPECIFICALLY,
in MATTHEW 24:15;
15 When you, therefore, will see
The Abomination of Desolation,
spoken of by
Daniel the Prophet,”
WHEN JESUS
COMES AGAINST THE APOSTATE
AND
REPROBATE NATION of ISRAEL,
IN JUDGMENT
UPON
JERUSALEM AND THE TEMPLE.



“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.”
was
PROPHESIED BY DANIEL,
as The Abomination of Desolation,
i.e., Jesus
Does Not begin to answer
the Apostles
THIRD QUESTION,
in Matthew 24:3 b & d
about,
‘what shall be the sign of …
The End of The World’,
that Jesus’ Disciples Asked,
in Matthew 24:3 b & d,
until
Matthew 24:35-37;

when Jesus Answers the Apostles
with regard to,

‘when will
The End of The World be’?

Jesus Answers them,
Saying;
“35 Heaven and Earth Will pass away,
but My Words Will Not Pass Away.

“36 But of that Day and Hour
knows no man,
no, not the Angels of Heaven,
but My Father only.

“37 But as the days of Noah were,
so Will also
the Coming of The Son of man be.”

THAT, MY FRIENDS,
is
The RETURN of JESUS CHRIST
to EARTH,
at
JESUS’ SECOND COMING,
and
The END of THE WORLD,
at which Time
JESUS WILL CREATE
a NEW HEAVEN and A NEW EARTH.
*****
Be Ready at Any Hour.

more, visable.
 

tyndale1946

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
The brothers, here at BB, have asked me to clear the direct formatting, previously, to allow the readers a more favorable view of the contents.

I can tell you exactly when
The END of The WORLD
Will Be:


The Answer to

when will
The END of The WORLD Be?:

was Given by
Jesus to His Disciples,
in Answer to the last question
His Disciples had asked of Him,
at the latter portion of
Matthew 24:3b..,c



Jesus’ Disciples had asked of Him,
at the latter portion of
Matthew 24:3b..,c

‘what Will Be the Sign of …
The End of The World’.


Jesus’ Answer was
in Matthew 24:35, 36 & 37;

Matthew 24:35;
“Heaven and Earth
Will Pass Away,
but
My Words
Will Not Pass Away.”

Matthew 24:36;
“But of that day and hour”

( WHEN:
‘Heaven and Earth
Will Pass Away’ )

“knows no man,
no, not the Angels of Heaven,
but My Father only.

Matthew 24:36;
“37 But as the days of Noah were,
so Will also
the Coming
of The Son of man Be.”







A brief discussion of
The BIBLE DEFINITION
of ‘The Gospel’
in Matthew 24:14
and
‘The Abomination
of Desolation of Jerusalem
and The Temple,
in Mattew 24:1, 2 & 3.

“Matthew 24:14
And this Gospel of the Kingdom”
i.e., The Good News of
The Promised Messiah
which would be defined
in 1 Corinthians 15:1 & 4 as;
“Christ Died for our sins
According to the Scriptures;

“4 And that He was Buried,
and that He Rose again
The Third Day”

Matthew 24:14b;
“And this Gospel of the Kingdom
shall be Preached in all the World
for a witness unto all Nations;
and then Will the end* come.”

This ‘end*’ being
The END of Jerusalem and The Temple,
about which Jesus
was Answering the Apostles question,
regarding His Statement to them
Revealing to them
The Coming Destruction of Jerusalem
and The Temple,
here in Mattew 24:1,2 & 3a;

“1 And Jesus went out,
and departed from the Temple:
and his Disciples came to Him
for to show Him
the buildings of the Temple.

“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.

“3 And as He sat upon the mount of Olives,
the Disciples came unto Him privately,
saying,
Tell us, when shall these things be?
and what Will be
The Sign of Your coming*,”

In Matthew 24:3 b & c;
In their First Two Questions:
in Matthew 24:3 b;
when Jesus’
“…Disciples came to Him privately,
saying,
1.) Tell us, when Will these things be?
and
in Matthew 24:3 c
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*,”
Jesus is Answering His Disciples,
Regarding their
First Two Questions:
1.) Tell us, when Will these things be?
and
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*,”
that had to do with
what Jesus had just Said,
about
The Destruction of The Temple,
in Matthew 24:2;

“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.”

When Jesus then Answers
these First Two Questions
by His Disciples,
1.) Tell us, when Will these things be?
and
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*,”
Jesus Answers
these
First two Questions,
in Matthew 24:4-34.

Matthew 24:4-34
is an

Explanation
Jesus is Giving His Disciples,

Regarding
The Destruction of The Temple,
He had JUST MENTIONED:
in Matthew 24:2;

“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.”

Everything Recorded
in Matthew 24:4-34, is

Jesus’ Explanation of
The Abomination of Desolation’

that
Jesus Refers to SPECIFICALLY,
in MATTHEW 24:15;
15 When you, therefore, will see
The Abomination of Desolation,
spoken of by
Daniel the Prophet,
stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth,
let him understand),
INCLUDING
The ‘coming’ of Jesus,
mentioned
in His Disciples Second Question,
in Matthew 24:3b;
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*”.

In Divine Interpretation of

Jesus’ Explanation of
The Abomination of Desolation’

that
Jesus Refers to SPECIFICALLY,
in MATTHEW 24:15;
15 When you, therefore, will see
The Abomination of Desolation,
spoken of by
Daniel the Prophet,”
WHEN JESUS
COMES AGAINST THE APOSTATE
AND
REPROBATE NATION of ISRAEL,
IN JUDGMENT
UPON
JERUSALEM AND THE TEMPLE.



“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.”
was
PROPHESIED BY DANIEL,
as The Abomination of Desolation,
i.e., Jesus
Does Not begin to answer
the Apostles
THIRD QUESTION,
in Matthew 24:3 b & d
about,
‘what shall be the sign of …
The End of The World’,
that Jesus’ Disciples Asked,
in Matthew 24:3 b & d,
until
Matthew 24:35-37;

when Jesus Answers the Apostles
with regard to,

‘when will
The End of The World be’?

Jesus Answers them,
Saying;
“35 Heaven and Earth Will pass away,
but My Words Will Not Pass Away.

“36 But of that Day and Hour
knows no man,
no, not the Angels of Heaven,
but My Father only.

“37 But as the days of Noah were,
so Will also
the Coming of The Son of man be.”

THAT, MY FRIENDS,
is
The RETURN of JESUS CHRIST
to EARTH,
at
JESUS’ SECOND COMING,
and
The END of THE WORLD,
at which Time
JESUS WILL CREATE
a NEW HEAVEN and A NEW EARTH.
*****
Be Ready at Any Hour.

more, visable.

I also have a Giant print KJV I go to quite frequently and I also quote the KJV and put it in Bold!... Us old timers need all the help we can get... Brother Glen:Thumbsup
 

George Antonios

Well-Known Member
The brothers, here at BB, have asked me to clear the direct formatting, previously, to allow the readers a more favorable view of the contents.

I can tell you exactly when
The END of The WORLD
Will Be:


The Answer to

when will
The END of The WORLD Be?:

was Given by
Jesus to His Disciples,
in Answer to the last question
His Disciples had asked of Him,
at the latter portion of
Matthew 24:3b..,c



Jesus’ Disciples had asked of Him,
at the latter portion of
Matthew 24:3b..,c

‘what Will Be the Sign of …
The End of The World’.


Jesus’ Answer was
in Matthew 24:35, 36 & 37;

Matthew 24:35;
“Heaven and Earth
Will Pass Away,
but
My Words
Will Not Pass Away.”

Matthew 24:36;
“But of that day and hour”

( WHEN:
‘Heaven and Earth
Will Pass Away’ )

“knows no man,
no, not the Angels of Heaven,
but My Father only.

Matthew 24:36;
“37 But as the days of Noah were,
so Will also
the Coming
of The Son of man Be.”







A brief discussion of
The BIBLE DEFINITION
of ‘The Gospel’
in Matthew 24:14
and
‘The Abomination
of Desolation of Jerusalem
and The Temple,
in Mattew 24:1, 2 & 3.

“Matthew 24:14
And this Gospel of the Kingdom”
i.e., The Good News of
The Promised Messiah
which would be defined
in 1 Corinthians 15:1 & 4 as;
“Christ Died for our sins
According to the Scriptures;

“4 And that He was Buried,
and that He Rose again
The Third Day”

Matthew 24:14b;
“And this Gospel of the Kingdom
shall be Preached in all the World
for a witness unto all Nations;
and then Will the end* come.”

This ‘end*’ being
The END of Jerusalem and The Temple,
about which Jesus
was Answering the Apostles question,
regarding His Statement to them
Revealing to them
The Coming Destruction of Jerusalem
and The Temple,
here in Mattew 24:1,2 & 3a;

“1 And Jesus went out,
and departed from the Temple:
and his Disciples came to Him
for to show Him
the buildings of the Temple.

“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.

“3 And as He sat upon the mount of Olives,
the Disciples came unto Him privately,
saying,
Tell us, when shall these things be?
and what Will be
The Sign of Your coming*,”

In Matthew 24:3 b & c;
In their First Two Questions:
in Matthew 24:3 b;
when Jesus’
“…Disciples came to Him privately,
saying,
1.) Tell us, when Will these things be?
and
in Matthew 24:3 c
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*,”
Jesus is Answering His Disciples,
Regarding their
First Two Questions:
1.) Tell us, when Will these things be?
and
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*,”
that had to do with
what Jesus had just Said,
about
The Destruction of The Temple,
in Matthew 24:2;

“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.”

When Jesus then Answers
these First Two Questions
by His Disciples,
1.) Tell us, when Will these things be?
and
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*,”
Jesus Answers
these
First two Questions,
in Matthew 24:4-34.

Matthew 24:4-34
is an

Explanation
Jesus is Giving His Disciples,

Regarding
The Destruction of The Temple,
He had JUST MENTIONED:
in Matthew 24:2;

“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.”

Everything Recorded
in Matthew 24:4-34, is

Jesus’ Explanation of
The Abomination of Desolation’

that
Jesus Refers to SPECIFICALLY,
in MATTHEW 24:15;
15 When you, therefore, will see
The Abomination of Desolation,
spoken of by
Daniel the Prophet,
stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth,
let him understand),
INCLUDING
The ‘coming’ of Jesus,
mentioned
in His Disciples Second Question,
in Matthew 24:3b;
2.) what Will Be
The Sign of Your coming*”.

In Divine Interpretation of

Jesus’ Explanation of
The Abomination of Desolation’

that
Jesus Refers to SPECIFICALLY,
in MATTHEW 24:15;
15 When you, therefore, will see
The Abomination of Desolation,
spoken of by
Daniel the Prophet,”
WHEN JESUS
COMES AGAINST THE APOSTATE
AND
REPROBATE NATION of ISRAEL,
IN JUDGMENT
UPON
JERUSALEM AND THE TEMPLE.



“2 And Jesus Said to them,
See ye, not all these things?
verily I Say to you,
There Will not be left here
one stone upon another,
that will not be thrown down.”
was
PROPHESIED BY DANIEL,
as The Abomination of Desolation,
i.e., Jesus
Does Not begin to answer
the Apostles
THIRD QUESTION,
in Matthew 24:3 b & d
about,
‘what shall be the sign of …
The End of The World’,
that Jesus’ Disciples Asked,
in Matthew 24:3 b & d,
until
Matthew 24:35-37;

when Jesus Answers the Apostles
with regard to,

‘when will
The End of The World be’?

Jesus Answers them,
Saying;
“35 Heaven and Earth Will pass away,
but My Words Will Not Pass Away.

“36 But of that Day and Hour
knows no man,
no, not the Angels of Heaven,
but My Father only.

“37 But as the days of Noah were,
so Will also
the Coming of The Son of man be.”

THAT, MY FRIENDS,
is
The RETURN of JESUS CHRIST
to EARTH,
at
JESUS’ SECOND COMING,
and
The END of THE WORLD,
at which Time
JESUS WILL CREATE
a NEW HEAVEN and A NEW EARTH.
*****
Be Ready at Any Hour.

more, visable.

I'm sorry but this is like reading a scroll.
 

thomas15

Well-Known Member
Both Calvinism and Arminianism make the claim that they get their theology from the Bible. It is true that they both use passages of Scripture to make their case. Beyond that it is up to the individual believer to decide if either one or the other is consistent in the application of the Scriptures.

My point is that this current discussion is being argued within the overall teaching of either Calvinism or Arminianism using those passages of scripture and the historic teachings of one or the other camp, sometimes in disregard of the message of the Bible as a whole. If you think that all of the specific OT covenant details are merged into one NT covenant fulfilled in the Christian church then you will see no purpose in a 1000 year reign of Christ on earth regardless of any specific OT or NT passage that talks about the 1000 years.

If an individual is committed to Augustinian/Reformed covenant theology then no amount of discussion, debate, argument and/or quoting of Scriptures will allow that person to see a need or purpose in any kind of 1000 years on earth or any future for national Israel. It is to be frank a pointless debate, unless one is willing to simply let the actual words of the Bible determine their theology rather than their theology determine their belief.

At the crux of Augustinian/Reformed covenant theology is the idea that the Jews had their chance and blew it. While it is true that they missed their opportunity to receive their Savior, the purposes of Jehovah are not dependent on obedience. If it were, the "modern church" would be in the same position today as the Jews were 2000 years ago, overall we are in open rebellion to Him who died on a cross for our salvation. If God can change His mind and cancel promises made to the Jews, there is no reason to believe that the modern corrupt church will fare any better.

Consider that Moses predicted that the Jews would totally corrupt themselves even before they entered the land and that Ezekiel declared that restoration to the land is for the sake of the reputation of Jehovah and His Holy name...period. This means that God knew the Jews would be unfaithful when he made his promises but he made them anyway and will keep them anyway. If he doesn't we are all in big trouble because God knew the church would corrupt itself in a similar fashion. So the big question becomes one of the purity of the church and/or the individual believer. I'm personally depending on God keeping His promises because of His grace because I haven't achieved godly purity.
 

37818

Well-Known Member
1 Peter 5:8, ". . . Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: . . ."

James 4:7, ". . . Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. . . ."

2 Corinthians 4:3-4, ". . . But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. . . ."

Matthew 13:29, ". . . When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. . . ."

Matthew 24:6, ". . . And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. . . ."

Revelation 20:2-3, ". . . And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. . . ."

Daniel 9:26, ". . . Messiah be cut off, . . ." 30 AD.

Daniel 9:26, ". . . the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; . . ." 70 AD.

Daniel 9:26, " . . . the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. . . ." Revelation 14:20, ". . . And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs. . . ." Revelation 19:13, ". . . And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. . . ."
 

Yeshua1

Well-Known Member
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Both Calvinism and Arminianism make the claim that they get their theology from the Bible. It is true that they both use passages of Scripture to make their case. Beyond that it is up to the individual believer to decide if either one or the other is consistent in the application of the Scriptures.

My point is that this current discussion is being argued within the overall teaching of either Calvinism or Arminianism using those passages of scripture and the historic teachings of one or the other camp, sometimes in disregard of the message of the Bible as a whole. If you think that all of the specific OT covenant details are merged into one NT covenant fulfilled in the Christian church then you will see no purpose in a 1000 year reign of Christ on earth regardless of any specific OT or NT passage that talks about the 1000 years.

If an individual is committed to Augustinian/Reformed covenant theology then no amount of discussion, debate, argument and/or quoting of Scriptures will allow that person to see a need or purpose in any kind of 1000 years on earth or any future for national Israel. It is to be frank a pointless debate, unless one is willing to simply let the actual words of the Bible determine their theology rather than their theology determine their belief.

At the crux of Augustinian/Reformed covenant theology is the idea that the Jews had their chance and blew it. While it is true that they missed their opportunity to receive their Savior, the purposes of Jehovah are not dependent on obedience. If it were, the "modern church" would be in the same position today as the Jews were 2000 years ago, overall we are in open rebellion to Him who died on a cross for our salvation. If God can change His mind and cancel promises made to the Jews, there is no reason to believe that the modern corrupt church will fare any better.

Consider that Moses predicted that the Jews would totally corrupt themselves even before they entered the land and that Ezekiel declared that restoration to the land is for the sake of the reputation of Jehovah and His Holy name...period. This means that God knew the Jews would be unfaithful when he made his promises but he made them anyway and will keep them anyway. If he doesn't we are all in big trouble because God knew the church would corrupt itself in a similar fashion. So the big question becomes one of the purity of the church and/or the individual believer. I'm personally depending on God keeping His promises because of His grace because I haven't achieved godly purity.
Actually there are holding to CT like myself, and Spurgeon, and Boice, who were premil still!
 

Brightfame52

Well-Known Member
I believe Christs 1000 yr reign began at His resurrection and ascension to the Father, and is until His Second Coming 1 Cor 15:25
For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
 

Scott Downey

Well-Known Member
Both Calvinism and Arminianism make the claim that they get their theology from the Bible. It is true that they both use passages of Scripture to make their case. Beyond that it is up to the individual believer to decide if either one or the other is consistent in the application of the Scriptures.

My point is that this current discussion is being argued within the overall teaching of either Calvinism or Arminianism using those passages of scripture and the historic teachings of one or the other camp, sometimes in disregard of the message of the Bible as a whole. If you think that all of the specific OT covenant details are merged into one NT covenant fulfilled in the Christian church then you will see no purpose in a 1000 year reign of Christ on earth regardless of any specific OT or NT passage that talks about the 1000 years.

If an individual is committed to Augustinian/Reformed covenant theology then no amount of discussion, debate, argument and/or quoting of Scriptures will allow that person to see a need or purpose in any kind of 1000 years on earth or any future for national Israel. It is to be frank a pointless debate, unless one is willing to simply let the actual words of the Bible determine their theology rather than their theology determine their belief.

At the crux of Augustinian/Reformed covenant theology is the idea that the Jews had their chance and blew it. While it is true that they missed their opportunity to receive their Savior, the purposes of Jehovah are not dependent on obedience. If it were, the "modern church" would be in the same position today as the Jews were 2000 years ago, overall we are in open rebellion to Him who died on a cross for our salvation. If God can change His mind and cancel promises made to the Jews, there is no reason to believe that the modern corrupt church will fare any better.

Consider that Moses predicted that the Jews would totally corrupt themselves even before they entered the land and that Ezekiel declared that restoration to the land is for the sake of the reputation of Jehovah and His Holy name...period. This means that God knew the Jews would be unfaithful when he made his promises but he made them anyway and will keep them anyway. If he doesn't we are all in big trouble because God knew the church would corrupt itself in a similar fashion. So the big question becomes one of the purity of the church and/or the individual believer. I'm personally depending on God keeping His promises because of His grace because I haven't achieved godly purity.
Them missing Christ as the Savior, Passover Lamb, was by design of God. They did not recognize Him so as for Him to be crucified and the gospel to be received by some gentiles. But not all of the Jews rejected Christ, even so there was and still is a faithful remnant of believing jews according to God's promise.

So in Romans 11 when Paul rhetorically asks, Has God rejected His people whom HE has foreknown? We can wholeheartedly say NEVER. Because the elect among them believe in Christ, just as some elect Gentiles believe in Christ. There is a remnant chosen according to the election of grace, and those are who His people always were and are, from both Gentile and Jew.

11 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, 3 “Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”? 4 But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5 Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 Just as it is written:

“God has given them a spirit of stupor,
Eyes that they should not see
And ears that they should not hear,
To this very day.”
 
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