Jesus died on Wednesday

[Salty]

One way to look at it.

 

[atpollard]

One way to look at it.

The way Esther [Esther 5:1] and Luke [Luke 24:21, 46] looked at it when it was recorded in the Bible.

 

[rstrats]

Mark 9:31, . . . he shall rise the third day.

And Mark 8:31 says He will rise after three days. Which is in line with Matthew 12:40 and Luke 24:21.

Luke 24:21, . . . to day is the third day since . . .

That was said on the first day of the week, i.e. Sunday, so the first day since the crucifixion would have been Friday, and the second day since the crucifixion would have been Saturday thus making Sunday the third day since the crucifixion.

 

[rstrats]

In the grave 3 days and 3 nights

Lets see
First night: Friday
Second night: Saturday

Third night???

That would be Sunday night. Where's the problem?

 

[rstrats]

Jews counted any parts of a day and counted days starting in the evening

Friday. Day 1

Saturday. Day 2

Sunday. Day 3

Do you have any examples to support that idea, i.e., instances when a daytime or a night time was said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have been?

 

[Ben1445]

That would be Sunday night. Where's the problem?

Mark 16:9
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

 

[Ben1445]

So you either can’t include Friday night or Sunday night.

 

[rstrats]

Mark 16:9
Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Are you saying that Mark 16:9 poses a problem?

 

[Ben1445]

Are you saying that Mark 16:9 poses a problem?

For Friday crucifixion.

 

[rstrats]

So you either can’t include Friday night or Sunday night.

Well, you have to include Sunday night with a Sunday resurrection.

 

[atpollard]

Do you have any examples to support that idea, i.e., instances when a daytime or a night time was said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have been?

Does Esther 4&5 count?

Esther 4:15-17 [NASB]
15 Then Esther told them to reply to Mordecai, 16 "Go, gather all the Jews who are found in Susa, and fast for me; do not eat or drink for three days, night or day. I and my attendants also will fast in the same way. And then I will go in to the king, which is not in accordance with the law; and if I perish, I perish." 17 So Mordecai went away and did just as Esther had commanded him.
Esther5:1-2 [NASB]
1 Now it came about on the third day that Esther put on her royal robes and stood in the inner courtyard of the king's palace in front of the king's rooms, and the king was sitting on his royal throne in the throne room, opposite the entrance to the palace. 2 When the king saw Esther the queen standing in the courtyard, she obtained favor in his sight; and the king extended to Esther the golden scepter which [was] in his hand. So Esther approached and touched the top of the scepter.

"Three days, day and night" = "on the third day"

 

[rstrats]

For Friday crucifixion.

But not with a Thursday crucifixion.

 

[Ben1445]

Well, you have to include Sunday night with a Sunday resurrection.

Do you mean the Sunday night beginning at six or sundown the previous day?
Or do you mean the night after He had already risen when He was not in the grave?

 

[Ben1445]

But not with a Thursday crucifixion.

I misunderstood your post 23.

 

[rstrats]

Does Esther 4&5 count?

It might be one example assuming "three days, night or day" is the same thing as "three days and three nights". However, it seemed like Marooncat79 was suggesting that it was prevalent usage.

 

[rstrats]

Do you mean the Sunday night beginning at six or sundown the previous day?

If you mean the night time during the first half of Sunday, then yes.

Or do you mean the night after He had already risen when He was not in the grave?

The night after that would be Monday night.

 

[Ben1445]

Jesus had already risen before sunrise on the first day of the week.
Evening coming first, Jesus being raised the third day would line up with a “nighttime” resurrection on the evening of the first day. This is also roughly the time of day Jesus was put into the tomb.

Any thoughts about this?

 

[rstrats]

Jesus had already risen before sunrise on the first day of the week.
Evening coming first, Jesus being raised the third day would line up with a “nighttime” resurrection on the evening of the first day. This is also roughly the time of day Jesus was put into the tomb.

Any thoughts about this?

The Messiah was apparently placed in the tomb sometime during the daytime late in the afternoon. So, if it was a night time resurrection then it couldn't have been even"roughly" the time of day that the Messiah was placed in the tomb which was during the day time.

 

[atpollard]

Any thoughts about this?

Only that 3 full days (sunlight) and 3 full nights (darkness) will never work with a resurrection near sunrise.

Jesus died in the afternoon (late daylight) and was quickly buried before sunset (irrespective of the exact day)
The women discovered the tomb empty at sunrise (Sunday).

So 3 full "daylight" and "darkness" requires Jesus to rise sometime between late afternoon (death) and sunset (burial) to have exactly 3 of each ... which is a whole "night" before the women arrived at the tomb and perhaps even part of a day if we want exactly 72 hours of death.

No matter how you slice it, exactly 72 hours is hard to fit into the narrative (implied by 3 full days and 3 full nights as literal).

 

[37818]

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And Mark 8:31 says He will rise after three days. Which is in line with Matthew 12:40 and Luke 24:21.


That was said on the first day of the week, i.e. Sunday, so the first day since the crucifixion would have been Friday, and the second day since the crucifixion would have been Saturday thus making Sunday the third day since the crucifixion.

Actually Friday is one day since.