Jesus VS today’s gospel of the kingdom

[37818]

The Millennium is a Pharisee Doctrine.

Revelation 20:4-6, ". . . And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. . . ."
Revelation 22:19, ". . . And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the tree of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. . . ."

 

[1689Dave]

Revelation 20:4-6, ". . . And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. . . ."
Revelation 22:19, ". . . And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the tree of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. . . ."

The kingdom is forever, not merely 1000 years. What are the 1000 years? They are the binding of Satan by the saints preaching the gospel to the nations. When the 1000 years end, Satan is loosed and he attacks the kingdom. Be careful. They are not the kingdom.

 

[church mouse guy]

The kingdom is forever, not merely 1000 years. What are the 1000 years? They are the binding of Satan by the saints preaching the gospel to the nations. When the 1000 years end, Satan is loosed and he attacks the kingdom. Be careful. They are not the kingdom.

Only you said that it was limited to one thousand years--no one else believes that.

 

[1689Dave]

Only you said that it was limited to one thousand years--no one else believes that.

Why doesn't it say "forever" if it's the kingdom? Scripture teaches no such thing as a millennium and that's why you and the Pharisees reject the gospel Jesus preached.

 

[church mouse guy]

Why doesn't it say "forever" if it's the kingdom? Scripture teaches no such thing as a millennium and that's why you and the Pharisees reject the gospel Jesus preached.

It means forever. Where do you get the idea that the reign of Jesus ends at the end of one thousand years? I lived four score years almost without hearing anyone but you say that you believed that. I believe in the world without end with the Holy Trinity in charge. I don't know where you got the idea that Jesus only reigned for a thousand years. Do you make this up or is that a widespread believe in your circle?

 

[37818]

The kingdom is forever, not merely 1000 years. What are the 1000 years? They are the binding of Satan by the saints preaching the gospel to the nations. When the 1000 years end, Satan is loosed and he attacks the kingdom. Be careful. They are not the kingdom.

That forever part takes place in the New Heavens and Earth which follows the day of Judgement Revelation 20:11-15, Revelation 21.

 

[1689Dave]

That forever part takes place in the New Heavens and Earth which follows the day of Judgement Revelation 20:11-15, Revelation 21.

There is no millennium. The forever kingdom began with Jesus preaching it and reaches completion in the restoration of Isreal at the end of the world. The restoration of Isreal is the resurrection of believers on the last day into the new heavens and earth. That is to say, believers are Isreal.

 

[1689Dave]

It means forever. Where do you get the idea that the reign of Jesus ends at the end of one thousand years? I lived four score years almost without hearing anyone but you say that you believed that. I believe in the world without end with the Holy Trinity in charge. I don't know where you got the idea that Jesus only reigned for a thousand years. Do you make this up or is that a widespread believe in your circle?

You do because you think the 1000 years are the kingdom. And they end.

 

[church mouse guy]

You do because you think the 1000 years are the kingdom. And they end.

That's nuts. I have never thought any such thing. In fact, I never heard anyone except you say that and that is not what Scripture teaches.

 

[1689Dave]

That's nuts. I have never thought any such thing. In fact, I never heard anyone except you say that and that is not what Scripture teaches.

You believe along with the Pharisees in a 1000 year (millennial kingdom) while rejecting the gospel Jesus preached. And who told us to preach until the end of the world.

 

[37818]

There is no millennium.

Your view as simply stated is not Biblical, Revelation 20:4-6.

 

[37818]

. . . the Pharisees in a 1000 year (millennial kingdom) . .. .

Without fact.

 

[church mouse guy]

You believe along with the Pharisees in a 1000 year (millennial kingdom) while rejecting the gospel Jesus preached. And who told us to preach until the end of the world.

I am not a preterist and I believe in a world without end ruled by the Holy Trinity. You need to get out of the preterism camp because it has led you to making baseless accusations.

 

[Derf B]

To say that the Kingdom shall have no end is not contradicted by a thousand year reign. Earth will be burnt up and we shall move to Heaven and the New Jerusalem but once Jesus returns to earth, His kingdom and reign shall have no end.

There will be a new earth. Are you sure heaven is our final destination?


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[church mouse guy]

There will be a new earth. Are you sure heaven is our final destination?


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You mean it might be the lake of fire? Yikes--they told me that there is a heaven, there is a hell, and there is a hurry!

 

[Derf B]

You mean it might be the lake of fire? Yikes--they told me that there is a heaven, there is a hell, and there is a hurry!

Lol.
Maybe I misread your previous post. You’re saying we come back to the new earth with Jesus, right?


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[church mouse guy]

Lol.
Maybe I misread your previous post. You’re saying we come back to the new earth with Jesus, right?


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Naw, you are correct--I was writing in generalities. We live in the New Jerusalem ultimately. No Chinese virus there.

 

[1689Dave]

I am not a preterist and I believe in a world without end ruled by the Holy Trinity. You need to get out of the preterism camp because it has led you to making baseless accusations.

I'm Amillennial just as Jesus taught. You reject him and side with the Pharisees.

 

[1689Dave]

Without fact.

Jesus VS today’s gospel of the kingdom

 

[1689Dave]

Your view as simply stated is not Biblical, Revelation 20:4-6.

Jesus VS today’s gospel of the kingdom