Jesus was the God-Man

[Salty]

We believe that Jesus was the God Man
Fully God and fully man

So could Jesus have sinned?

Was he created like Adam - born without sin - with the ability to sin?

Did Jesus have free will?

If He could not sin -
Would the Devil know that
and if the devil knew that - would he waste his time tempting Jesus.

or did Satan temp Jesus, because he knew that Jesus could have sin and if successful
than Jesus could not have become the sacrifice?

Other questions to ask?

Do we have good answers?

 

[SavedByGrace]

We believe that Jesus was the God Man
Fully God and fully man

Jesus Christ IS the God-Man, not WAS. He is fully God and Fully Man, thought without any sin, as per Luke 1:35 (KJV)

So could Jesus have sinned?

As Jesus Christ is the God-Man, in the One Person, the Bible says that "God cannot be tempted by evil" (James 1:13), therefore Jesus was "not able to sin".

Was he created like Adam - born without sin - with the ability to sin?

As the Eternal God, Yahweh, Jesus Christ is uncreated, and as Almighty God, unable to sin.

Did Jesus have free will?

Jesus Christ is Almighty God and a after His Incarnation, became the God-Man, which means that He also has a human "will".

If He could not sin -
Would the Devil know that
and if the devil knew that - would he waste his time tempting Jesus.

or did Satan temp Jesus, because he knew that Jesus could have sin and if successful
than Jesus could not have become the sacrifice?

The devil always knows Who Jesus Christ is, because the demons in the Gospels knew, and Jesus told them not to reveal Who He is.

Jesus' human nature is completely perfect, and without any sin, and with the nature of God, in the One Person, He is the God-Man (Philippians 2:5-8).

The "testing" of Jesus Christ by the devil was indeed very real, because the devil assumed that he could have caused Jesus to have sinned, which is what "tempting" means. To "tempt" someone does not mean that they would "fall" at all, it is always the "assumption" that they could be made to "fall".

Other questions to ask?

Do we have good answers?

 

[Ziggy]

The historical theological solution:

Posse non peccare...Able not to sin.

Non posse peccare...Not able to sin.

 

[SavedByGrace]

The historical theological solution:

Posse non peccare...Able not to sin.

Non posse peccare...Not able to sin.

There is only one Biblical answer which is the latter

 

[kyredneck]

We believe that Jesus was the God Man
Fully God and fully man

Yes

So could Jesus have sinned?

No

The Impeccability of Christ | Monergism

Was he created like Adam - born without sin - with the ability to sin?

No

Did Jesus have free will?

He freely gave His will over to the Father's will.

If He could not sin -
Would the Devil know that
and if the devil knew that - would he waste his time tempting Jesus.

or did Satan temp Jesus, because he knew that Jesus could have sin and if successful
than Jesus could not have become the sacrifice?

Food for thought. If Christ was 'dragged' by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil, why not the devil also (dragged)?

New International Version
At once the Spirit sent him out into the wilderness,

New Living Translation
The Spirit then compelled Jesus to go into the wilderness,

English Standard Version
The Spirit immediately drove him out into the wilderness.

Berean Study Bible
At once the Spirit drove Jesus into the wilderness,

Berean Literal Bible
And immediately the Spirit drives Him out into the wilderness.

King James Bible
And immediately the Spirit driveth him into the wilderness.

New King James Version
Immediately the Spirit drove Him into the wilderness.

New American Standard Bible
And immediately the Spirit brought Him out into the wilderness.

NASB 1995
Immediately the Spirit impelled Him to go out into the wilderness.

NASB 1977
And immediately the Spirit impelled Him to go out into the wilderness.

Amplified Bible
Immediately the [Holy] Spirit forced Him out into the wilderness.

Christian Standard Bible
Immediately the Spirit drove him into the wilderness.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Immediately the Spirit drove Him into the wilderness.

American Standard Version
And straightway the Spirit driveth him forth into the wilderness.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And at once The Spirit drove him into the wilderness.

Contemporary English Version
At once God's Spirit made Jesus go into the desert.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And immediately the Spirit drove him out into the desert.

English Revised Version
And straightway the Spirit driveth him forth into the wilderness.

Good News Translation
At once the Spirit made him go into the desert,

GOD'S WORD® Translation
At once the Spirit brought him into the desert,

International Standard Version
At once the Spirit drove him into the wilderness.

Literal Standard Version
And immediately the Spirit puts Him forth into the wilderness,

NET Bible
The Spirit immediately drove him into the wilderness.

New Heart English Bible
And immediately the Spirit drove him out into the wilderness.

Weymouth New Testament
At once the Spirit impelled Him to go out into the Desert,

World English Bible
Immediately the Spirit drove him out into the wilderness.

Young's Literal Translation
And immediately doth the Spirit put him forth to the wilderness,

 

[kyredneck]

Other questions to ask?

39 And he went forward a little, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass away from me: nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt. Mt 26

If, as some say, Christ was seeking to avoid the cross, would this not be 'asking amiss'? Wouldn't it be a sin?

 

[37818]

If, as some say, Christ was seeking to avoid the cross, would this not be 'asking amiss'? Wouldn't it be a sin?

Jesus was really human. Him being really human was not a sin.
Hebrews 5:6-10,". . . As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

 

[Mikey]

We believe that Jesus was the God Man
Fully God and fully man

So could Jesus have sinned?

Was he created like Adam - born without sin - with the ability to sin?

Did Jesus have free will?

If He could not sin -
Would the Devil know that
and if the devil knew that - would he waste his time tempting Jesus.

or did Satan temp Jesus, because he knew that Jesus could have sin and if successful
than Jesus could not have become the sacrifice?

Other questions to ask?

Do we have good answers?

Was the God Man?? Is the God Man!!

 

[kyredneck]

Jesus was really human. Him being really human was not a sin.
Hebrews 5:6-10,". . . As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing that Jesus was asking God, 'if it's possible let me not have to be crucified'?

 

[Salty]

Was the God Man?? Is the God Man!!

So is Jesus still man?

 

[37818]

Are you agreeing or disagreeing that Jesus was asking God, 'if it's possible let me not have to be crucified'?

Yes. Per Hebrews 5:8. Even though prior to this He indeed planned to go to the cross. His asking was not a sin.

 

[kyredneck]

Yes. Per Hebrews 5:8.

...asking to be saved from death, NOT the cross:

7 Who in the days of his flesh, having offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and having been heard for his godly fear, Heb 5

He was heard. God indeed did let the cup pass from Him, He saved Him from death by raising Him from the dead.

Compare v 39:

39 And he went forward a little, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass away from me: nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.

With v 53:

53 Or thinkest thou that I cannot beseech my Father, and he shall even now send me more than twelve legions of angels?

...and know that Christ COULD HAVE circumvented the cross simply by asking, but that's not what He was requesting in v 39.

Even though prior to this He indeed planned to go to the cross.

So you're saying that God the Son flipped and changed His mind from just a few minutes earlier and was now asking to be 'saved from this hour'?

27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour. But for this cause came I unto this hour.
28 Father, glorify thy name. There came therefore a voice out of heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. Jn 12

Not. But God the Father did indeed glorify Him again by raising Him from the dead:

10 For thou wilt not leave my soul to Sheol; Neither wilt thou suffer thy holy one to see corruption. Ps 16

 

[SavedByGrace]

learned he obedience by the things which he suffered

μανθάνω, "to be accustomed to", not "something taught".

 

[Mikey]

So is Jesus still man?

Yes.